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Hi Michał, |
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El 27/03/18 a las 09:45, Michał Górny escribió: |
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> W dniu wto, 27.03.2018 o godzinie 01∶54 +0200, użytkownik Francisco Blas |
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> Izquierdo Riera (klondike) napisał: |
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>> Hi Rich! |
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>> El 27/03/18 a las 01:01, Rich Freeman escribió: |
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>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera |
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>>> (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> the majority of the stakeholders of the Gentoo Social Contract (anybody |
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>>>> other than Gentoo developers and those vouched by them) |
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>>> I just did some asking around and those non-developer stakeholders |
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>>> (who are apparently a majority of our total set of stakeholders) say |
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>>> that they disagree with your proposed changes. Are you sure you |
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>>> actually talked to all of them? |
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>>> |
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>>> It is possible that there is some confusion - could you provide a list |
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>>> of the names of these stakeholders who apparently constitute a |
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>>> majority? Gentoo devs apparently don't count for much (other than |
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>>> doing all the work I suppose), but we can at least generate a list of |
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>>> who they are... |
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>> Please don't derail the topic. If you want to discuss who are the |
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>> specific stakeholders affected by the Gentoo Social Contract you are |
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>> more than welcome to open a different thread, on gentoo-project. |
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>> I opened this thread to discuss proposals to fix the fact that with the |
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>> permission change of the gentoo-dev mailing list ordered by the council, |
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>> the majority of the stakeholders of the Gentoo Social Contract (anybody |
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>> other than Gentoo developers and those vouched by them) can't neither |
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>> propose nor discuss changes to said contract through the official |
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>> channels. If you have any input in that regard, I'll be more than happy |
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>> to read it. |
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> Sounds to me that you've created an artificial problem to create |
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> hostility within the community, and when somebody asks you to define |
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> the problem more specifically, you refuse to answer. |
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Until now nobody has asked me to define the problem that I'm trying to |
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address any better than I already did, all I have gotten have been |
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attempts to hijack the thread. |
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I'll try to explain again the problem my propossals are trying to fix. |
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Until gentoo-dev became restricted, all of the stakeholders of the |
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Gentoo Social Contract had an official way to propose and discuss |
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changes to it. As it is now impossible for some (I suspect the majority) |
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of them to propose changes in the official way now. This is a problem |
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because it basically restricts their ability to propose modifications |
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(like you did using the, then, wrong list on 2017 |
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https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/e20bc1207eca0164fe942012cce9c543). |
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Therefore, either we change the social contract to reflect this new |
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reality or we end up being against it. |
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klondike |