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On 08/29/2013 10:32 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> On 29 August 2013 07:09, Michael Weber <xmw@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 08/28/2013 01:15 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>>> Hi, |
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>>> |
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>>> I'd like to ask the council to vote on the following topics regarding the |
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>>> 'minor arches' based on the feedback I received on the respective |
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>>> thread in the gentoo-dev mailing list |
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>>> |
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>>> http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=137708312817671&w=1 |
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>>> |
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>>> Drop the following arches to ~arch |
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>>> |
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>>> - s390 |
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>>> - sh |
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>>> - ia64 |
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>>> - alpha |
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>>> - m68k |
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>>> - sparc |
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>>> -(maybe ppc and ppc64?) |
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>> make that x86 to be consequent. |
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> I don't think being sarcastic adds anything valuable to the conversation |
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Neither does diving partial summaries or exaggerating the reality. |
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>>> |
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>>> The feedback on the original question was mostly positive. |
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>>> Most people agree that the long stabilization queues for these |
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>>> architectures create problems |
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>>> for maintainers wishing to drop old versions. |
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>> Is this the only motivation? Drop all the effort that has been put into |
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>> stabilization work on minor arches just for some impatient maintainers? |
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> Others reasons are explained to the thread in -dev ML |
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>> |
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>> Keywording/Stabilization is a process we all agreed on joining, so live |
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>> with it. |
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>>> The council should also take into consideration that the stabilization process |
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>>> for these arches is mostly a one-man job (Agostino). |
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>> It's the same one man show for amd64 and x86. |
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> It is not. |
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Neither is it for minor arches. There are others doing stabilizations, too. |
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>> Minor arches tend to have less cpu/io performance than this fancy |
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>> show-off amd64 dev machines. |
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>> Running the @world\@system on bleeding edge might be a never ending |
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>> compile job. |
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> This is one of the reasons they are so slow. And combining it with the |
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> one-man show argument, |
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> you see why we have problems. Moreover, as you can see, nobody from |
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> these arch teams |
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> ever replied (apart from Matt) which kinda proves my point. |
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I did stabilizations on sparc/ppc before ago kicked in. |
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A arm/ppc/sparc arch member. |
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Michael Weber |
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Gentoo Developer |
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web: https://xmw.de/ |
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mailto: Michael Weber <xmw@g.o> |
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