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On 09/30/2016 07:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> What if comrel is wrong? What if I am good for Gentoo and they have just kept |
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>> me out and mistreated me for a long time? Where would Gentoo be if people |
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>> that were driven away were still contributing all these years? |
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> [snip] |
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> If somebody knows more about how other distros are handling these |
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> sorts of issues I'm all ears. I can almost certainly guarantee that |
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> most distros maintain some kind of code of conduct and enforce it. I |
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> just don't know how they do it. |
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Based on what I can tell, things are handled ad hoc, with somewhat vague |
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references to established conduct expectations. |
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Arch has a wikipage for CoC [1], but it spans to both users and |
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developers and much of it is imo too far. When I was an Arch user, I |
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witnessed quite a few threads deleted and people banned on IRC over |
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things that we generally allow. |
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Ubuntu's CoC [2] is more wishy-washy and thus open to interpretation. In |
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fact it reads somewhat close to the "Open Code of Conduct" which GitHub |
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adopted a while back and imo encourages rule lawyering and SJW shenanigans. |
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It's part of why I generally support the Gentoo CoC despite disagreeing |
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with a few of the finer points (strong language mostly): it gives me a |
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clear idea of what conduct I am to exemplify while acting in my |
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developer role. Disputes are easily examined due to how detailed the |
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policy is, though it can result in policy lawyering from time to time. |
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In short, two of the most popular distros have broad, but less precise |
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ideas of what they expect from their community. (I couldn't find |
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anything relating directly to internal developers; my search-fu isn't |
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that great) To my knowledge Arch is still lead by BDFL Aaron "phrakture" |
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Griffin and of course Ubuntu is led by Mark Shuttleworth. There may be |
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lieutenants or "community managers" involved that do the dirty work, but |
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their power structure generally sits with one person at the top. |
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That said, I've not been a developer for either of them, and haven't |
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been a part of their communities since 2007 and 2012, respectively. |
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There may be more to the picture that's simply not shared with the public. |
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[1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct |
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[2]: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct |
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