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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:05 AM Michael Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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> On 03/07/19 11:47, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > You also need to consider services that we would receive that we |
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> > currently lack. After all, Gentoo hasn't spent a dime on CPAs for a |
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> > long time, but that was hardly a true savings. |
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> What makes you suggest we need the extra services that would be included by |
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> an umbrella org? What services are you thinking of? |
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Well, I'm not the one going on endlessly about how Gentoo doesn't |
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consult lawyers often enough and that only lawyers can understand the |
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law... :) |
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> What would be the cost |
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> if the Gentoo Foundation Inc procured these services separately? How does |
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> this provide a cost saving? |
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I suspect that the tax savings alone would pay for moving to an |
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umbrella org. Savings on a CPA would be on top of that. At that |
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point any additional services are basically "free." |
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However, I suspect that due to economies of scale it will still cost |
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less to get these other services through an umbrella than to buy them |
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ourselves. |
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As you say, though, you could certainly compare the costs, and I'm not |
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suggesting that this can't be done. |
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> Can you prove this is therefore "better value |
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> for money" if despite having less "expenses" as Robin points out, but |
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> larger net income, and hence larger net fees? |
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Having more net income might mean more fees, but since fees are a |
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percentage of income, it is a net benefit all the same. |
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Sure, if we have $5000 more to work with, we might end up spending an |
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extra $500 in fees, but that still leaves us off $4500 better than we |
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are today. |
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Certainly it would be beneficial to look at actual numbers, but I'm |
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dubious that these sorts of percentage-based solutions are going to |
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cost more than what we're spending already. They also have the |
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benefit that anytime our income is reduced our overhead is |
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automatically reduced in kind, as opposed to with doing it ourselves |
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where the CPA probably costs the same whether we lose half our income |
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or not. |
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Rich |
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