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On Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:27:44 -0500 |
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"William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Monday, December 5, 2016 3:01:54 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > |
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> > However, some people have the quality of being toxic to the point of |
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> > causing Gentoo to lose multiple contributors (contributions), sometimes |
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> > over even a very short period of time. That's where disciplinary strong |
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> > actions from Comrel become necessary. Of course, that's a rare case but |
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> > it happened. |
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> Sometimes in taking action to protect the community. You kill the community. |
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> Such IS the case with Gentoo Java. Comrel drove me away, and killed the team. |
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> That is a FACT! The reason why is I helped to build the team and keep it |
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> together. I organized meetings, brought on more developers etc. For everyone |
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> who says I am toxic. History and facts will prove otherwise. Go look! |
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One does not exclude the other. Sometimes you have to weight between |
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two bad choices, and attempt to choose the lesser evil. Can you prove |
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that your coexistence with other developers will be beneficial |
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long-term to Gentoo as a whole? |
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Yes, we heard you the previous 50 times, Java is in bad state. However, |
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many other areas of Gentoo are not that bad. How can you guarantee, |
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especially considering your behavior so far, that your work on Gentoo |
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-- while causing improvement in Java status -- wouldn't cause other |
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developers to reduce their productivity on other areas of Gentoo? |
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> You all can say you are protecting the community by driving away people. |
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> People whom you are not working with. Not doing the work they would. Not find |
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> another to do the work. Your claim of protecting the community and not driving |
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> others away. Did literally just that. I am NOT the only one either! |
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> However no matter how many times those facts are brought up. No matter how |
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> long Gentoo Java goes neglected. People still deny the facts and refuse to |
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> change course. While more are NOT coming! |
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> This logic does not make sense, and there are no results to justify the |
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> approach. |
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I'm sorry for not finding a better word for it but this really sounds |
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like blackmail. 'You must recruit me, or your Java will suffer!' Do you |
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really think we ought to recruit people based on how persistent they |
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are in blackmailing us? |
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-- |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/> |
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