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From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Representation of Gentoo on third-party platforms
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 02:59:42
Message-Id: 2e39c3d3-2cda-afad-2041-22110e0dc516@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Representation of Gentoo on third-party platforms by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On 11/13/2016 03:47 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
2 > On Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:22:04 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >>
4 >> And if the Council told somebody that they're welcome to stay in
5 >> Gentoo, and Comrel boots them anyway,
6 >
7 > You are still over simplifying a complex matter. So lets get complex, and
8 > waste more time...
9 >
10 > When council overrules Comrel decision, is the developers record wiped clean
11 > all history erased?
12
13 History is history, it should never be erased as it forms the background
14 for any discussions.
15
16 > Is there any probation period for the returning developer?
17 > What happens if there is a breach is said probation?
18
19 Depends on the case at hand
20
21 > What if there is aggressive oversight/monitoring of said developer during any
22 > probation period?
23
24 See above
25
26 >
27 > How will members of Comrel feel to have their decision reversed?
28 > Will they have animosity and seek revenge or forgive and forget?
29
30 Revenge does not belong in any organization
31
32 >
33 > Why would anyone even want to appeal and continue to work with others who do
34 > not want to work with them?
35 >
36
37 if seriously disagreeing about the action at hand, and having oversight
38 at a higher body
39
40 > There are likely even more questions that come up in said scenario, but if you
41 > cannot start to see the multitude of issues overruling any decision. You can
42 > see while an appeal process is futile. Why its best for the entire situation
43 > to not exist.
44
45 The situation not existing is the best case in any case
46 >
47 > If Comrel cannot resolve problems, and it results in appeals. It should not
48 > exist. As that creates more overhead, from something that should reduce.
49 >
50
51 Not following, having an appeal possibility should be a positive thing
52 for any developer at that point
53
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55 Kristian Fiskerstrand
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