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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:19:30
Message-Id: 1522138764.2317.11.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up by Daniel Robbins
1 W dniu pon, 26.03.2018 o godzinie 19∶54 -0600, użytkownik Daniel Robbins
2 napisał:
3 > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera
6 > > (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote:
7 > > >
8 > > > If you cvs annotate the index.xml file for the Gentoo Foundation on the
9 > > > old documentation CVS you'll find that such line was added by Corey
10 > > > Shields (cshields) on the first edition of the project page itself,
11 > > > revision 1.1 made on 26-March-2005 before GLEP-39 existed. According to
12 > > > that same page Corey was one of the members of the Board of the
13 > >
14 > > Foundation.
15 > > >
16 > >
17 > > Well, that answers the first half of the question then.
18 > >
19 >
20 > Council is related to technical leadership, inter-project technical issues
21 > and issues impacting development, which can include disciplinary issues.
22 >
23 > Trustees look out for the long-term health of the project. This includes
24 > legal matters, social contract, and quite a few other things.
25 >
26 > I resigned after the initial trustees were appointed. It appears that the
27 > initial trustees had challenges making decisions and leading the project.
28 > However, while they might have been relatively "weak" and had very limited
29 > scope in practice (most likely due to being overwhelmed with their new
30 > responsibilities, learning to run a NFP, etc.which has a very high learning
31 > curve,) that does not mean that the trustees were intended to be passive in
32 > regards to the direction of the project. Non-technical issues that are
33 > large in scope should by default go to the trustees for direction.
34 >
35
36 And this sentence pretty much explains a common problem around Council-
37 Trustee split. There's a number of people who predate it, and make
38 assumptions based on the past.
39
40 Building on such assumptions, you can pretty much reach the point that
41 Trustees do everything and Council doesn't even exist. But by omitting
42 later events, you're creating a false vision of the present.
43
44 What really matters is what Council and Trustees do today. And that is
45 a result of a number of past transformations that go beyond the initial
46 formation of the Council.
47
48 Back when I was recruited, this was the role of the Council I was
49 taught. If you don't believe it, you are free to research the past to
50 either prove or disprove it. But in order to do that, you need to
51 account fo all past events, not only some of them.
52
53 --
54 Best regards,
55 Michał Górny

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