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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation membership and who can join
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:53:04
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_oQ4gB2jYjfhRZ_7Rr8JpfhNAsf2Jkqb8g8yOpvp1mwoQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation membership and who can join by Roy Bamford
1 My personal opinion is that the only global qualification should be
2 adherance to the CoC, but that different roles (foundation member, staff
3 member, developer) should be kept orthogonal.
4
5 On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
6 wrote:
7
8 > On 2016.10.14 04:48, Matthew Thode wrote:
9 > > On 10/13/2016 10:33 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
10 > > >
11 > > >> On Oct 13, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Matthew Thode
12 > > <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
13 > > >>
14 > > >> Some definitions
15 > > >> - All devs are staff
16 > > >> - All staff are foundation members
17 > > >> - All foundation members are staff
18 > > >> - All foundation members are voting
19 > > >> - You can be staff without being a dev (forum, bugs, irc)
20 > > >> - Foundation membership is automatically revoked if you miss two
21 > > >> Foundation elections (not sure if this needs to change)
22 > > >>
23 > > >
24 > > > So what happens, exactly, when a dev misses two elections?
25 > > >
26 > > >
27 > >
28 > > I'm not certain, I personally don't think that alone should be enough
29 > > for retirement, but perhaps a probation for a year (til next election)
30 > > then retirement if they don't vote again?
31 > >
32 > > --
33 > > -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
34 > >
35 > >
36 >
37 > Matthew,
38 >
39 > Longer term, this doesn't change anything. I'll do a worked example
40 > below, what am I missing?
41 >
42 > May 2017, the above bylaw change is adopted by the Foundation
43 > Jun - Aug 2017, first Trustee election including the enlarged
44 > Foundation electorate. The number of devs casting a vote is
45 > unchanged from prior years so the turnout goes down.
46 > Longer standing members are pruned in accordance with the two
47 > year rule.
48 > Jul - Aug 2018 the process repeats. This time, most of the
49 > (conscript) devs who became Foundation members in May 2017
50 > under the bylaw change are pruned and we are back to those
51 > having an active interest.
52 >
53 > The problem is not so much the differing constituencies, long
54 > term, that won't change. Its the numbers active in the differing
55 > constituencies.
56 >
57 > This proposal doesn't really address that. It aligns the
58 > constituencies in May 2017, in my example, and that's gone
59 > by the end of Aug 2018, two elections later.
60 >
61 > How do you keep the constituencies aligned or does it really
62 > not matter because only those interested will vote anyway.
63 > Its not difficult for interested devs to become Foundation
64 > members if they want to and the Foundation has always
65 > advertised the recording date for Trustee elections in good
66 > time to allow devs to join without missing the vote.
67 >
68 > --
69 > Regards,
70 >
71 > Roy Bamford
72 > (Neddyseagoon) a member of
73 > elections
74 > gentoo-ops
75 > forum-mods
76 > trustees
77 >