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From: NP-Hardass <NP-Hardass@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v4]
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 13:52:12
Message-Id: 4683a4e7-c752-8735-4bcf-1ee7cb4837f9@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v4] by Rich Freeman
1 On 09/27/2018 08:42 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:00 AM NP-Hardass <NP-Hardass@g.o> wrote:
3 >>
4 >> On 09/26/2018 03:25 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
5 >>> Here is another small update of the copyright GLEP, resulting from a
6 >>> recent discussion on IRC. This is not a change of policy, but merely
7 >>> a clarification of the real name requirement:
8 >>>
9 >>> - The Signed-off-by line must contain the name of a natural person.
10 >>>
11 >>> - A copyright holder can be a legal entity (e.g., a company) in some
12 >>> jurisdictions.
13 >>>
14 >>
15 >> IANAL, but as per the Berne Convention, anonymous and pseudonymous works
16 >> are granted copyright protection. What's the rationale behind mandating
17 >> a real name?
18 >
19 > The DCO/GCO have nothing to do with obtaining copyright protection.
20 > This is always present if not waived.
21 >
22 > It is about showing due diligence in the event somebody claims that
23 > somebody ripped off their work and contributed it to Gentoo without
24 > authorization.
25 >
26 > If your real name is attached to a statement saying that you didn't
27 > steal the work, and you did steal the work, then they can go after you
28 > as well as Gentoo. That deters contributing stuff without checking on
29 > its legality. That same deterrence also helps show good faith on
30 > Gentoo's part. This is why organizations generally pursue these
31 > policies.
32 >
33 > If somebody violates a copyright anonymously, then they have no skin
34 > in the game. They can just disappear if anything bad happens. If a
35 > contributor isn't willing to stake their own money and reputation on
36 > the statement that something is legal to contribute, then why should
37 > Gentoo assume that they've put a lot of effort into the accuracy of
38 > that statement?
39 >
40
41 And, AFAICT, this only applies to the Signed-off-by line (the
42 committer). The author may be anonymous or pseudonymous... So, your
43 statement is that people making commits to Gentoo must have real
44 names... and be public. This doesn't have any impact on whether the
45 source of the code is legit, just gives you a point of blame for who
46 actually committed it (which, TBH, doesn't mean much). I can say John
47 Doe committed code that wasn't legal. But i_steal_code_1337 authored
48 it... I guess we know not to accept code from him... or do we... since
49 we have no way of vetting authors. Making the restriction of names for
50 committers and not authors, IMO, has no weight. Requiring that all
51 contributions be from real named sources is a pretty drastic change, and
52 not what is being proposed, TTBOMK.
53
54 But that's really besides the point... The current status quo (as is the
55 case with me) is that a committer may be pseudonymous under the
56 condition that the Foundation have that individual's name in the event
57 of a copyright issue. So, I still don't understand how forcing everyone
58 to publicly use a real name achieves something that we aren't currently
59 achieving... Is that incorrect?
60
61 --
62 NP-Hardass

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