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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-12-09
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2018 00:39:18
Message-Id: b74326f9-35cb-80f5-1beb-d683002c3b49@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-12-09 by Aaron Bauman
1 On 04/12/18 00:16, Aaron Bauman wrote:
2 >> On 25.11.2018 15:31, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
3 >>> In two weeks from now, there will be a council meeting again. Now is
4 >>> the time to raise and prepare agenda items that you want us to discuss
5 >>> and/or vote upon.
6 >>>
7 >>> Please respond to this message on the gentoo-project mailing list with
8 >>> agenda items.
9 >>> The final agenda will be sent out on 2018-12-02, so please make sure
10 >>> you post any agenda items before that, or we may not be able to
11 >>> accommodate it into the next meeting.
12 >>>
13 >>> The meeting itself will happen on 2018-12-09 19:00 UTC [1] in the
14 >>> #gentoo-council FreeNode IRC channel.
15 >>>
16 >>>
17 >>> 1. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20181209T19
18 >>>
19 >>>
20 >>> Thanks,
21 >>> Mart Raudsepp
22 > I would like to propose, once again, that the council vote on the
23 > following items:
24 >
25 > 1. The council approves all architectures that are maintained as stable
26 > architectures.
27 > - e.g. alpha, amd64, arm, arm64, ia64, ppc, ppc64, and x86.
28 >
29 > Conversely, the council also may remove/drop such architectures as
30 > needed (c.f. item 2).
31 >
32 > 2. The council approves that all stable architectures are subsequently
33 > determined to be security supported. Thus, an architecture may not be
34 > stable and *not* security supported. This disparity has implications in
35 > processes and timeliness of actions taken to mitigate vulnerabilities
36 > reported.
37 > - e.g. amd64 is approved as stable arch and thus is security supported.
38 > - e.g. arm is dropped as a stable arch thus is no longer security supported.
39 >
40 > Overall, both of these items will provide a much clearer understanding
41 > of how security is able to proceed with mitigating vulnerabilities in
42 > the tree, how users view and understand what architectures are stable
43 > and security supported, and allow the security team and maintainers a
44 > clearer/cleaner process to follow.
45 >
46 > Standing by to answer RFI's.
47 >
48 > --
49 > Cheers,
50 > Aaron
51 By all means correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that a
52 stable *arch* meant that there was a consistent dependency tree, and this
53 was maintained to ensure there was some integrity to that arch's packages.
54 It had/has nothing to do with security-supported which was another separate
55 classification entirely.
56
57 I see merit in simplifying the categorisation of arch package sets, but I'm
58 not sure this particular change/proposal will serve much of a purpose,
59 other than further reinforcing that amd64 is the only arch that Gentoo
60 officially supports; and sets the wheels in motion for eventual bitrot of
61 anything else, streamlining the way for deprecation and treecleaning
62 anything which is not relevant for amd64 arch.
63 Please clarify that this is not, and will not be the case with this
64 policy/proposal.

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