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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:19:46
Message-Id: CAGfcS_k4=OGqTx8--Aca=nV7cKx+gua4+xU7hpBn56fChXG+WQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract by hasufell
1 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:05 PM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:
2 > Rich Freeman:
3 >>
4 >> I like Robin's "kickstarter" suggestion in general as a potential way
5 >> to improve things. I'll probably comment further in the other
6 >> thread...
7 >>
8 >
9 > I think the solution is to make less pressure on infra. That way we are
10 > also less dependant on infra.
11 >
12 > This would be easily possible if gentoo was a collection of high-quality
13 > overlays sharing the same base of policies and having tight
14 > communication for inter-overlay matters, e.g. with a central bug tracker.
15 >
16
17 I certainly agree that we should try to focus on the elements of infra
18 that are most essential.
19
20 However, I'm not sure that your suggestion will necessarily reduce the
21 impact on infra. Moving lots of stuff to overlays doesn't get rid of
22 the need for a git repo unless we move EVERYTHING to overlays that
23 aren't hosted by Gentoo. We might reduce the number of mirrors we
24 need if we stop mirroring some packages, but we won't eliminate the
25 need for mirrors unless we don't mirror anything. Etc.
26
27 I imagine 95% of the burden of infra is in providing services at all.
28 If we didn't host any mailing lists, that would reduce infra. If we
29 just retired a few lists, that wouldn't really make much difference.
30
31 Just something to keep in mind when trying to reduce our scope. I do
32 generally think we should be thinking about what services are most
33 important to host ourselves vs just utilizing stuff that is out there.
34
35 --
36 Rich