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On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 17:54 +0100, Michael Imhof wrote: |
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> 1) The "inofficial" tracker is atm the only tracker we have. |
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Currently due to the official tracker dying. |
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> 2) It is owned and under control of Stefan Knoblich (stkn@g.o). |
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Ahh, thank you for pointing me to the right person for information on |
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the "unofficial" tracker. |
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> 3) This tracker is currently doing a good job and working without |
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> problems and keeps all files and isos we have. |
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I have heard nothing but good things. |
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> 4) http://torrents.g.o has a redirect onto that machine |
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> (http://tracker.netdomination.org). |
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Infra has a working tracker which will be torrents.gentoo.org, as far as |
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I know. I know that we have a working tracker, I just do not know if it |
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will be assuming the torrents.gentoo.org hostname, but I would assume |
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that it will. |
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> So as we have a working tracker that could hold all files for the new |
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> release and is well known to our user base. |
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> I just don't get the point why we are in need of an official one. |
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> stkns tracker is atm inofficial for political reasons. |
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As far as I know (again), nothing should have a gentoo.org domain if it |
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is not run by the infrastructure team. That is why we have to have an |
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"official" tracker. At the same time, we can easily work with an |
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"unofficial" tracker, but that is really not my concern at this point. |
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Currently, I am asking for information from the arch coordinators so I |
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can find out what we have room for on the official tracker. At this |
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time, it looks like the "official" tracker will only be hosting items |
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which we are not capable of storing on our community mirrors due to |
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space constraints. This means that the "official" tracker will *not* be |
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hosting most of the "official" release materials, but only the "extra" |
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materials, such as the sub-arches for x86 and ppc. |
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> When we are now having an official tracker that can not hold all files |
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> and an inofficial one that has all files this new situation would |
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> confuse our userbase. Atm we use bittorrent to give them more files than |
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> our official mirror system can hold. So they can download most files |
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> via http/ftp and get additional stuff (or better said if they like all |
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> files) via bt. |
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Honestly, I don't know what you're getting all up in arms about. I |
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personally do not care what is going on with the trackers at all. I am |
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just trying to get information from the arch coordinators on what they |
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want offered from our official tracker. |
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All other discussion is superfluous at this time. |
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> Do we really want to have mirrors and two bt machines? |
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> Why don't we set up mirrors for every file (that's the direction into |
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> which this idea is going imho) ? |
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Gentoo currently has ZERO trackers. The current plan is to have the |
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official release materials spread across both the official community |
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mirrors and the official tracker. That being said, there is nothing |
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stopping the "unofficial" tracker from mirroring whatever they want. We |
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are planning on advertising both trackers and depending on what goes on |
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with the unofficial tracker, we will probably be telling people that |
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they can get the entire release from the unofficial tracker. This is no |
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different than it was for 2004.2's release. The only problem was the |
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official tracker died during 2004.2's release. Which begs the question |
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again of what are you getting all up in arms about? I am merely |
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gathering information which I plan on using to discuss with everyone |
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once I have collected it to see what we wish to do for the release. |
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> What i personally think is the following: |
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> Why don't we make the existing tracker an official one? It could be |
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> sponsored and maintained by the "Friends of Gentoo / Gentoo e.V.". |
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> We would have no problems with space requirements, no problems with |
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> confusing our userbase etc. |
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I don't care. I don't care if the official tracker is a Windows box in |
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Antarctica. I am not the person to talk to about such things and this |
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is not the list to talk about such things. You will need to take that |
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up with the infrastructure team, as anything with a gentoo.org domain |
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name falls to them. |
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Release Engineering - Operational/QA Manager |
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