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On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 16:59 -0500, Michael Crute wrote: |
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> I REALLY dislike the idea of eliminating stage1 tarballs. I am |
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> personally very picky about my system and what gets installed and from |
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> my point of view installing from a stage3 is as bad as installing |
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> Fedora. Plus it would be a real pain in the butt to have to go |
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> backwards, installing a bunch of stuff up front and then going back by |
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> hand and removing it. I do share Ed's sentiments about stage2 though, |
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> you could eliminate those as I don't see much point to them. You |
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> either want it all or you want the bare minimum, I want the bare |
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> minimum. |
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Read my response to him to see why you're not saving yourself any time |
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or work. |
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> Another thought is release the tarballs but do not support anyone with |
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> problems doing a stage1 install. If you are brave enough to attempt |
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> it, you go it alone. |
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This was one of my original options, stated in my first email. The only |
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issue with this is it still causes a great burden on the developers that |
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are responsible for release bugs. We are severely overworked when |
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release time comes around, and having things such as a stage1 which |
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essentially allows a user to completely bypass all of our QA is a |
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logistical nightmare. |
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Choice be damned, if you can't ever get Gentoo on your system, who cares |
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if you got to make a few *choices* or not? |
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The removal of a stage1 tarball does not remove *any* choice from the |
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user doing the installation. Anyone who tells you otherwise does not |
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know what they are talking about. |
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It *does* however guarantee that you have a minimal working system of |
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known quality with which to do your installation from, rather than a |
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completely hacked and limited functionality minimal environment designed |
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only to support the building of a minimal working system. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering - Strategic Lead |
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x86 Architecture Team |
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Games - Developer |
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Gentoo Linux |
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