Gentoo Archives: gentoo-security

From: Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@××××××××××.jp>
To: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Out of air
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:00:02
Message-Id: 200411101400.39645.jstubbs@work-at.co.jp
In Reply to: [gentoo-security] Re: Out of air by Chris Frey
1 On Wednesday 10 November 2004 13:35, Chris Frey wrote:
2 > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 09:05:41PM -0500, Denis Roy wrote:
3 > > > not prompted the beginning of a new initiative in signing the tree
4 > >
5 > > because that was already underway. I very much doubt that it'll speed
6 > > up the progress made on that initiative, because the main limiting
7 > > factor is time. No matter what is said here, it's not going to make
8 > > anybody go out and quit their jobs in order to get tree signing
9 > > implemented quicker.
10 >
11 > The problem with phrasing it this way is that it implies there is only
12 > one way to address this issue. It may be true that Gentoo has decided
13 > on only one way to address the issue, but there are other ways to do it.
14
15 A large part of the 1.5 years was spent discussing the best solution - threads
16 not unsimilar to this one. Even to the end, there were still people bringing
17 up the point that signing doesn't protect against wayward developers. Even
18 so, after reveiwing all the points a decision was reached because most agreed
19 that something needed to be done.
20
21 > The current development effort that is underway is not one that can be
22 > implemented overnight, but there is a solution that manages to satisfy
23 > the core needs of this thread that can be implemented overnight.
24
25 I would advise everybody to read through aforementioned discussions in the
26 archives of gentoo-dev@g.o before persuing this. Something that
27 appears so simple as this on the surface still has a number of sharp edges.
28 The infrastructure team would have to do some careful planning and possibly
29 restructing of job control on the master rsync and cvs servers. The portage
30 team would need to implement support for verifying the signature is valid.
31 Whoever else would have to plan and implement distribution of this
32 all-powerful key.
33
34 But it doesn't stop there. Following this would be plan of action for the case
35 that the all-powerful key is compromised. Then there is also the up to six
36 month transition period between this solution and the solution that is
37 currently being implemented. That also requires careful planning and
38 implementation. So.. adding this simple solution now actually more than
39 doubles the amount of work that needs to be done down the track.
40
41 Regards,
42 Jason Stubbs
43
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