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From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@g.o>
To: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-trustees@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright stuff
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:21:31
Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.58.0506271319450.5498@shell.osuosl.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright stuff by Sven Vermeulen
1 If you look at the previous copyright thread on core however, certain
2 countries will not let you sign over copyrights namely germany and italy
3 are the 2 that i remember.
4
5 I agree that gentoo should be able to protect it's software. but how.
6 The license might be 1 way to go, agreed.
7 On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
8
9 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:17:59 +0200
10 > From: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
11 > To: gentoo-trustees@l.g.o
12 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright stuff
13 >
14 > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:37:26PM -0700, Deedra Waters wrote:
15 > > I want to start this out as a small discussion to start with and take it
16 > > to core once i get a general idea of how people feel.
17 > >
18 > > What i want to know from you all is do we really want to have/deal with
19 > > the copyright stuff?
20 > >
21 > > My feeling is that while copyrights are/can be a good thing, i'm
22 > > starting to think that with the major differences that's in our
23 > > developer base, that we're not going to get a complete copyright doc
24 > > that everyone can and will be able to handle. Some countries can't sign
25 > > over copyrights, while we have devs that are under the legal age to sign
26 > > documents.
27 >
28 > True about the age, but not true about not being able to transfer
29 > copyrights. We are talking about transferrable rights here, not moral
30 > rights.
31 >
32 > I still feel that a copyright assignment is the best option if we can not
33 > have the copyright available for both parties (i.e. both the developer /and/
34 > the foundation can take action against copyright violations). Having dual
35 > copyrights is more troublesome than full copyright assignment, since full
36 > copyright assignment is probably listed in all relevant laws (Copyright Act
37 > in the USA, Auteursrecht in Belgium, etc.) while dual copyright is more
38 > something exotic.
39 >
40 > Another possibility is an exclusive license. With an exclusive license, the
41 > Foundation can protect the code (take appropriate measures, ...) while the
42 > original author still retains the copyright. The drawback is that the
43 > original author can not use the code beyond what the Foundation and the
44 > contract (= the license) sais ("exclusive" license).
45 >
46 > But, back to the why's: I do feel that we need to have this protection.
47 > With the copyright (or exclusive license) in the Foundation's hands,
48 > Gentoo's code is completely contained within the project. We are then able
49 > to protect ourselves in case of copyright violations.
50 >
51 > Unless I am mistaken, copyright violations are the only reason why we would
52 > want copyright assignment (it is not the Foundation's intention to change
53 > license; as a matter of fact, we explicitly made clear that we will never
54 > change license). Yet copyright violations are a big issue.
55 >
56 > One frequent violation is removing the creditation given on the code (or
57 > documentation). That may seem small, but for a free software/documentation
58 > contribution, it is very important to the contributor. What good is the
59 > code/documentation to the contributor if no-one knows he did it?
60 >
61 > Other violations are for instance modifications without making the changes
62 > open (case of GPL), using the code/documentation as part of a different,
63 > non-free work, etc.
64 >
65 > Wkr,
66 > Sven Vermeulen
67 >
68 >
69
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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright stuff Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>