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From: Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:46:47
Message-Id: 4F47401F.5090600@binarywings.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86 by Adam Carter
1 Am 24.02.2012 04:01, schrieb Adam Carter:
2 >>> In all of those cases above, if you allowed the connection it would
3 >>> still be SSL encrypted. You'd be protected against packet sniffers but
4 >>> not against man-in-the-middle attack.
5 >
6 > And the reason someone will man-in-the-middle you, is so they can
7 > sniff your traffic and get passwords or other sensitive information.
8 > This is done by terminating the SSL session from you, and then
9 > creating a new SSL session to the real server.
10 >
11 >>> By switching to http your
12 >>> session occurs in plain-text and is vulnerable to both attacks.
13 >>>
14 >>
15 >> OK, clearly I'm overstating the problem then. I haven't ever had any
16 >> problems logging into password protected, little closed lock in the
17 >> bottom corner web sites so that's not a problem. The real problem I've
18 >> noticed the most is just with these links that arrive as https:// type
19 >> links and Firefox asking me to specifically accept these certificates
20 >> which I don't really want to do.
21 >
22 > Is the problem that accepting the certificate is inconvenient?
23 >
24 >> And I've not had any problems I've noticed by just removing the 's'
25 >> and using the site like a regular site.
26 >
27 > That's ok if you understand that you're turning off the security
28 > features, so it will be possible for an attacker to see your traffic.
29 >
30 >> So, I guess there really isn't any problem with my system.
31 >
32 > Correct - the problem is on the server that you're connecting to is
33 > presenting an untrusted certificate. That could be because its a
34 > server that's impersonating the server you really want to connect to,
35 > or the server's administrator is not doing their job. In rare cases it
36 > could also be that the certificate has been revoked or the CA is no
37 > longer trusted by your web browser (eg the Diginotar mentioned
38 > earlier).
39 >
40
41 Let's not forget that whenever you are presented with that warning, it
42 could also be a man-in-the-middle attack. Therefore just clicking on
43 "Accept" on every site is about the stupidest thing you can do.
44
45 I'm unsure how the warning looks when you have previously accepted a
46 normally untrusted certificate on that site and now it is different
47 (which could be an indication of MITM). I hope there is a big red flashy
48 warning but I doubt it.
49
50 Regards,
51 Florian Philipp

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Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86 Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>