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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:03:11
Message-Id: 20100209133331.3a00ecbb@zaphod.digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? by Zeerak Waseem
1 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:43:12 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
2
3 > > That's as much crippling as simplifying. You can do without pam and
4 > > hal by setting appropriate USE flags (I run pam-free here by
5 > > doing just that) but D-Bus provides a standard way for applications to
6 > > communicate with one another and removing it can stop your desktop
7 > > working as it should.
8
9 > Really? I removed dbus from my system altogether and everything seems
10 > to be communicating fine. And according to this
11 > (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-810848-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html)
12 > a system should be able to communicate without dbus.
13
14 I've not read the whole thread, but this quote jumped out.
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16 "DBUS is just the chosen successor to DCOP and CORBA; all platforms have
17 inter-process messaging (e.g, Distributed Objects in OSX/*STEP)."
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19 It is a messaging layer and nothing to do with HAL, although HAL may use
20 it to communicate, for example to let the desktop know that a USB device
21 has been connected or disconnected.
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23 While HAL is an ugly mess that should never be exposed to users, D-Bus
24 just gets on with its job, maybe because it is not exposed to users.
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27 --
28 Neil Bothwick
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30 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
31 temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
32 Benjamin Franklin

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Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>