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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:08:05 +0700 |
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Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info> wrote: |
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> On Sep 27, 2011 5:11 AM, "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > Speaking as someone experienced in running Gentoo but certainly not |
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> > a power user - I don't write scripts or program at all - I gotta |
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> > say I don't like that way this is all working on my system so far. |
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> > TO BE CLEAR, I am SURE that I don't have everything configured as |
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> > well as it could possibly be, but I also suspect that would be true |
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> > for the majority of new wireless users on Gentoo after only a day |
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> > or two. |
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Just to throw a small spanner in the works.... |
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All my wpa issues were solved long ago by dumping the gentoo net |
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scripts, then installing and running wicd where it all JustWorks(TM). |
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init.d scripts work great for static servers. |
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wicd works great for mobile laptops. |
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There's very little overlap between these two. |
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Have you considered using wicd at all? |
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> Not to belittle non-power users, most everything can be done by |
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> putting some more intelligence into the init.d scripts. |
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> Of course, this should be implemented by Gentoo itself. I'll spelunk |
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> in the relevant scripts and see what I can do. |
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> > My experience so far: |
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> > 1) As discussed earlier, needing to mess with routes when changing |
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> > which network I'm using. Sad when both options actually point to the |
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> > same address. |
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> Solvable by putting commands to add/delete routes in postup() and |
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> predown() |
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> > 2) If I start with wlan0 turned off and switch to root to disable |
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> > eth0 and enable wlan0, I get a message that wlan0 is up but 'not |
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> > active'. Indeed, as a user if I start a browser it doesn't work. |
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> > However, if as root I ping the router I immediately get a response |
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> > and then my browser works fine. |
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> Can you check if pinging to self (i.e., wlan0's IP) activates the |
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> interface? If so, it will be a simple addition to postup() |
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> > 3) If I disable wlan0 and then reenable it it doesn't work until I |
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> > restart wpa_supplicant |
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> Okay, this will be more involved, since I have no experience with, |
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> nor any setup using, wpa_supplicant. But should also be possible |
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> through postup() |
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> > 4) So far wpa_gui cannot find any networks, or at least doesn't |
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> > display anything when I attempt a scan. |
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> This I'm not sure how to fix, since my Gentoo boxen has no GUI. |
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> > I don't understand at this point how to make this work for normal |
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> > users. Anyone in my family of three might want to pick this laptop |
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> > up and go to a different part of the house, or even go out of the |
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> > house and use the laptop with some public network. I haven't a clue |
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> > yet how anyone is supposed to change networks when they aren't |
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> > root. I understand that flies in the face of typical Linux |
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> > security, but it seems to me that a well thought out wireless |
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> > environment could figure out how to do that, and possibly has |
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> > already but I haven't found the info. |
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> Valid points. That's why I'll volunteer to 'tweak' the net script. |
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> > Anyway, I am THRILLED to have wireless working at all and appreciate |
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> > all the help I got getting there. Without question I couldn't have |
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> > gotten here without it. |
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> Rgds, |
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Alan McKinnnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |