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From: Jeremi Piotrowski <jeremi.piotrowski@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:42:35
Message-Id: alpine.LNX.2.20.1508282223520.5361@gentoo-tp.localdomain
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 by Michel Catudal
1 > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:25:01 PM Michel Catudal wrote:
2 > > > This is nonsense. I have never had a case where it would not boot when I
3 > > have grub correctly installed on the partition.
4
5 This hasn't happened to you so it obviously means it isn't possible...
6
7
8 On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote:
9 > Le 2015-08-27 23:36, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit :
10 > > Install grub to a partition and do something like this:
11 > >
12 > > su
13 > > cd
14 > > mv /boot/grub grub
15 > > cp -r grub /boot
16 > > rm -r grub
17 > >
18 > What is your point? same if I do that with grub1, it was even more fun with
19 > windows 98 by deleting win.ini or renaming it "win .ini"
20 > With grub on the partition my bootloader doesn't get wacked and I can restore
21 > the OS if I do a stupid thing like this.
22 >
23
24 You seem to be trying really hard to _not_ get what people are saying to
25 you.
26
27 The above commands will *not* change anything visibly - they are akin
28 to backing up your grub configuration and later restoring. It ends up at
29 the same location on the filesystem, but this doesn't mean it is at the
30 same location on the block device.
31
32 That's the problem with installing grub to a partition: all it really does
33 is store (in the PBR) a list of blocks where the grub core.img is located
34 without caring about the filesystem structure on top. This is a _fragile_
35 set-up.
36
37 So there. There are technical reasons why this is not a supported setup.
38
39 No one has removed this option from grub2, so all your complaints about
40 dictatorship are invalid.