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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo/GMail/download to Evolution
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:04:34
Message-Id: 200904181304.28797.michaelkintzios@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo/GMail/download to Evolution by Paul Hartman
1 On Friday 17 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
2 > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > > He has just started switching from Time-Warner's Roadrunner cable
4 > > modem service to Verizon's FIOS. His new link is up and his speed is
5 > > very nice. (20Mb/S downlaod, 5Mb/S upload using Speakeasy.net to
6 > > test.) The issue he is running into is that Roadrunner's SMTP server
7 > > is not allowing him to send email, presumably because he's not on one
8 > > of their IP address.
9
10 Does RR offer SMTP authentication to allow legit senders to login before they
11 can send messages? They may also require that you use a different port when
12 you are trying to connect to their mailserver from an IP address that does
13 not belong to them (e.g. port 587, instead of the vanilla SMTP port 25).
14
15 > It could also be Verizon blocking you from connecting to other SMTP
16 > servers, to prevent spam.
17
18 I know that some US ISPs are blocking port 25 just for this reason (there's
19 many pwned machines spewing spam out there) even from IP addresses that
20 belong to them. Some, like comcast, will only block port 25 if they see
21 unreasonably high traffic over short periods of time. Others block it right
22 from the word go.
23
24 > You very well may be able to sent RR email
25 > through Verizon's server.
26
27 I think that this is what ISPs want, to control the flow of emails and so
28 hopefully minimise spam from their block of IP addresses. If your father has
29 a Verizon account then you should be able to set your SMART_HOST and
30 appropriate port to send (relay) emails via Verizon's mailservers if you're
31 using Sendmail, or configure your father's mail client accordingly.
32
33 > > Anyway, he's thinking I need to convert him over to a Verizon email
34 > > address but I was thinking that if he could continue using Evolution
35 > > but send and receive through GMail it would be a better long term
36 > > solution.
37 >
38 > I think it is good advice to everyone to avoid using ISP e-mail
39 > accounts.
40
41 +1
42
43 > > Is this a good idea and more importantly is this possible? What
44 > > sort of issues will I have managing this for him.
45 >
46 > Assuming he doesn't have any exotic e-mail scripts or folder structure
47 > going on, I would use Gmail with IMAP, then he'll be able to access
48 > his email at home and have the ability to check it via the web in case
49 > he's ever out and about and needs access.
50
51 I suggest you use POP3 unless your father has reasons (as mentioned above) for
52 using IMAP4. The latter is not as efficient (data wise) as POP3, but adds
53 functional flexibility and acts as an online mailbox back up, just in case
54 your father's PC/disk packs up.
55
56 Once you set gmail as you want it and enable POP3/IMAP4 access for him on the
57 gmail GUI, their system is essentially maintenance free. It is also more
58 likely to outdo your ISP performance in terms of uptime (although there have
59 been a couple of instances lately with gmail servers becoming unavailable).
60 --
61 Regards,
62 Mick