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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> Am 29.05.2016 um 22:15 schrieb Alan McKinnon: |
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>> On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote: |
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>>> Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>>> On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: |
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>>>> Well, he did reply. Either his script is still doing it or he did |
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>>>> and he hasn't learned anything yet. It's funny how he is the only |
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>>>> one that has these problems and how he keeps using that disaster of |
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>>>> a script. I don't think anyone has posted a positive thing about |
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>>>> that script. I'm no script guru by any means but even I can read |
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>>>> that thing and see what a disaster it is. Best of luck to him. I'm |
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>>>> about done trying to help. Key word, trying. Dale :-) :-) |
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>> I agree Dale. |
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>> Mr Grimes should probably move over to Linux From Scratch. It has none |
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>> of portage's absurdities, makes no effort at all to be helpful to the |
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>> user and allows anyone to write any build automation they feel is |
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>> appropriate. LFS also requires you to watch all the compiler output all |
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>> the time to catch problems; it all seems to match Mr Grimes' |
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>> requirements right down to a tee. |
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>> I'm going to STFU down, go to bed and finish an astonishingly intriguing |
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>> Stephen King book and let the computer get on with doing whatever it |
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>> thinks perl-cleaner fixes. |
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> personally, I hope he stays around. His mails and the resulting threads |
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> amuse me. |
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On one hand, it is somewhat funny to read. On the other, it is really |
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silly. Jeez, I've had things go sideways before, hal comes to mind, but |
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I don't use a script like he does and bring it on myself. Heck, I can |
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remember when the update process was emerge sync and emerge -uvp world. |
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Look at list, then remove the -p part. Then pray there was no build |
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failure from a bug. Then portage, both the emerge command and the tree |
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and all its ebuilds, started improving. Slots came along and a whole |
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ton of other things. Nowadays, eix-sync && emerge -uvaDN world and |
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generally, it's ready to update. Once that is done, a little |
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housekeeping and it's done. Of all the problems I have, it is usually |
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something I overlook that I did or just a general build failure. |
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Sometimes a retry gets it going again. |
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Thing is, emerge has changed over the years. All of us have adapted to |
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those changes and adapted our own systems and process to what works. |
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Some systems may be fine with a backtrack that is the default. Some may |
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need it set to 30, some 100. Thing is, setting it to 0 to disable it or |
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something, that won't likely work to well. Grimes seems to want to |
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disable some of the new features thinking it will make it easier but |
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it's making it harder. Portage/emerge will do the heavy lifting if you |
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let it. |
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Anyway, I'll give it another go or two and after that, he will have to |
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figure it out on his own. I like helping when I can but sometimes, you |
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just have to let them get hungry enough to fish for themselves. lol |
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Dale |
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:) :-) |
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