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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Consolekit and elogind switch questions
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 11:06:02
Message-Id: 1813344.BBufne7VMU@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Consolekit and elogind switch questions by Neil Bothwick
1 On Monday, 28 October 2019 08:25:06 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 02:46:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
3 > > Thanks much for the info. Maybe the switch will go well for me too.
4 >
5 > If it works for you it will be good news for the rest of us ;-)
6
7 If hald's list of devices has anything to do with it, Dale is bound to nail it
8 on the first (re)boot! :-)
9
10 The consolekit framework is responsible switching between users on a system.
11 As I understand it, when you go to 'Plasma/Leave/Switch User' menu option,
12 console kit daemon is responsible for:
13
14 1. Looking at PAM and any processes you own as a user in a login session.
15 2. Checking which seat (local or remote) you are logged in as and associating
16 the hardware you are using with it (e.g. keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.).
17 3. Connecting to the d-bus system bus to manage the local login session and
18 pass control of hardware devices to the new user.
19 4. When the new user enters their credentials at the Display Manager, check
20 with PAM what processes the new user is authorised to access/use in their
21 login session.
22
23 I should have the above mostly correct. You may ask if any of this control
24 framework complexity is *necessary* for a single user called Dale, who won't
25 allow anyone else to take his 'seat' at the PC without a fight. The answer is
26 probably no, and this is why simpler desktop environments like *box,
27 Enlightenment, etc. do not offer the facility to switch users and therefore do
28 not ultimately need consolekit.
29
30 There are no screenshots of consolekit/elogind because AFAIK neither offer a
31 GUI application. However, when you run 'ck-list-sessions' in a terminal
32 you'll see your local session, as well as any other login sessions you may be
33 running at the time, e.g. /dev/tt1, remote logins over ssh and which of these
34 are active at the time.
35
36 Since consolekit is no longer under development and systemd appears to have
37 taken over most of the Linux distros, elogind is the current service which can
38 run as stand alone on openrc (just as udev of systemd does).
39
40 When elogind is running you can use 'loginctl list-sessions' in a terminal to
41 see who's running a session. The man page gives more options.
42
43 You don't *have* to add elogind as a boot service, because any applications
44 which need it will launch it themselves. However, don't be surprised if some
45 desktop functions are not working as expected. For example, the SDDM Display
46 Manager's shutdown/reboot buttons may not be displayed and even if they are
47 displayed they'll do nothing when you click on them after a reboot. If after
48 a reboot you login/out into your Plasma desktop, then elogind will be running
49 and the SDDM buttons should function again normally.
50
51 I have converted a number of systems to elogind. It should be as easy as
52 setting in your make.conf:
53
54 USE="elogind -consolekit"
55
56 grep consolekit -r /etc/portage
57
58 to find and remove/replace any USE flags still asking for consolekit to be
59 emerged. Then,
60
61 emerge --depclean -v -a consolekit
62
63 emerge -uaNDv @world
64
65 emerge @preserved-rebuild -v -a
66
67 rc-update del consolekit
68 rc-update add elogind boot
69
70 reboot
71
72 From memory that's all there is to it.
73 --
74 Regards,
75
76 Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Consolekit and elogind switch questions Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
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