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On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> On 09/06/2009 02:23 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> >> On Sunday 06 September 2009 00:48:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> >>>> Also, have you considered that you got it all backwards? The kernel |
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> >>>> configuration tells you that for lower latencies, you should use |
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> >>>> 1000Hz and PREEMPT. It even says "Desktop" right there. Why should I |
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> >>>> take your word over that of the kernel devs who actually wrote that |
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> >>>> code? |
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> >>> |
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> >>> low latency means bad throughput and that hurts IO. |
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> >> |
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> >> The average desktop user on Linux needs low latency. To get that, one |
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> >> must sacrifice some throughput efficiency. |
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> > and then complain, that IO hurts? |
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> No one complains that IO hurts. Perhaps you aren't even reading. The |
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> complaints are about GUI stalls. Not slow IO. |
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yeah, and most GUI stalls happen with big io. ooops. |
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> > btw, I think, I am an average user, doing the average stuff, and I am |
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> > pretty happy with 'voluntary preemption'. |
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> We are not. |
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'we'. |
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> >> have you considered that there is a large population of users whose |
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> >> needs and workload are totally different from yours and therefore |
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> >> require something completely different to you? |
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> > yes, but I consider my workload average. Surfing the web, watching tv, |
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> > watching movies with xine/vlc/mplayer. Listening to music with amarok and |
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> > alsaplayer. Typing stuff. Sometimes skype. Burning a dvd once in a while. |
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> > vegastrike, ut2004, if I want to play a game. |
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> > See? Average. |
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> > Now 32 sound streams in ardour (or whatever tool you use for that), that |
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> > is hardly 'average'. |
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> Doesn't matter if it's not average. What does matter is that Linux is |
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> not up to the task while Windows and OS X are. |
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and windows has a completly different, gui centric architecture. Oh, and for |
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serious audio stuff you need special low latency drivers. Humpf. |
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So what was your point again? Windows needs special drivers for serious audio |
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stuff - and people are complaining that they have to turn on rt in linux for |
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the same tasks? |
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