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On 09/06/2009 03:43 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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>> On 09/06/2009 02:23 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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>>> On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>>> On Sunday 06 September 2009 00:48:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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>>>>>> Also, have you considered that you got it all backwards? The kernel |
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>>>>>> configuration tells you that for lower latencies, you should use |
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>>>>>> 1000Hz and PREEMPT. It even says "Desktop" right there. Why should I |
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>>>>>> take your word over that of the kernel devs who actually wrote that |
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>>>>>> code? |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> low latency means bad throughput and that hurts IO. |
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>>>> |
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>>>> The average desktop user on Linux needs low latency. To get that, one |
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>>>> must sacrifice some throughput efficiency. |
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>>> |
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>>> and then complain, that IO hurts? |
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>> No one complains that IO hurts. Perhaps you aren't even reading. The |
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>> complaints are about GUI stalls. Not slow IO. |
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> yeah, and most GUI stalls happen with big io. ooops. |
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>>> btw, I think, I am an average user, doing the average stuff, and I am |
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>>> pretty happy with 'voluntary preemption'. |
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>> We are not. |
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> |
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> 'we'. |
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>>>> have you considered that there is a large population of users whose |
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>>>> needs and workload are totally different from yours and therefore |
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>>>> require something completely different to you? |
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>>> |
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>>> yes, but I consider my workload average. Surfing the web, watching tv, |
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>>> watching movies with xine/vlc/mplayer. Listening to music with amarok and |
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>>> alsaplayer. Typing stuff. Sometimes skype. Burning a dvd once in a while. |
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>>> vegastrike, ut2004, if I want to play a game. |
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>>> |
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>>> See? Average. |
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>>> |
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>>> Now 32 sound streams in ardour (or whatever tool you use for that), that |
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>>> is hardly 'average'. |
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>> Doesn't matter if it's not average. What does matter is that Linux is |
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>> not up to the task while Windows and OS X are. |
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> and windows has a completly different, gui centric architecture. Oh, and for |
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> serious audio stuff you need special low latency drivers. Humpf. |
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> So what was your point again? Windows needs special drivers for serious audio |
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> stuff - and people are complaining that they have to turn on rt in linux for |
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> the same tasks? |
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I don't even know why I keep talking to you. You don't seem to *want* |
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to understand. It's not about special drivers. Or specialized audio |
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processing. It's about my 3D desktop cube getting skippy sometimes |
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while video is playing. It's about the transparency effect applied |
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while moving mplayer resulting in some frame skipping. It's about a |
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slight pause while scrolling a web page if I have an emerge running. |
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About the mouse freezing for about 0.1 seconds once in a while while |
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doing the same. |
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Can't you understand, or don't you want to understand? |
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