Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 15:38:34
Message-Id: alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2010111133260.18210@panix1.panix.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook by Ashley Dixon
1 On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, Ashley Dixon wrote:
2
3 > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 07:30:19
4 > From: Ashley Dixon <ash@××××××××××.uk>
5 > Reply-To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
6 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
7 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook
8 >
9 > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:09:00PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
10 > > missing lots of accessibility-related material.
11 > > I've installed several other versions of Linux before and got them
12 > > accessible using material found mostly on the internet for instructions.
13 > > The first one was RedHat 5.0 when that was a current distribution.
14 > > After that, slackware, debian, fedora ubuntu arch-linux coconut and jenux.
15 > > Anyone interested could do a youtube search for gentoo, and I'm pretty
16 > > sure you'll find I wasn't the only potential installer who ran into all
17 > > manner of unexpected behavior.
18 >
19 > YouTube probably isn't the best source of information for technical Linux
20 > documentation. Asking here on the mailing list is always good; the appropriate
21 > IRC channels can be helpful, too. Gentoo does not hold your hand and provide a
22 > pretty GUI for every potential option and use-case, because its range of target
23 > consumers is far too broad. The "all manner of unexpected behaviour" you're
24 > encountering is just the feeling of having to do some of the heavy-lifting
25 > yourself, which is certainly not a negative remark on Gentoo!
26 >
27 > If you have a very specific and niche issue, you can also reach out directly to
28 > the Gentoo Accessibility Project in different forms (#gentoo-accessibility;
29 > accessibility@g.o; gentoo-accessibility@l.g.o) [1].
30 >
31 > > An A gentoo accessibility install podcast ought to have been available for
32 > > this distribution many years ago.
33 >
34 > A podcast for all accessibility use-cases in Gentoo would, once again, be far
35 > too broad and help only a minority of potentially interested viewers. A
36 > dedicated espeak(up) page on the Gentoo wiki would be great, however. I was
37 > rather surprised to see that one didn't exist.
38 >
39 > > A feature that would be useful for menuconfig would be the ability once a
40 > > search is done to jump onto the desired search item directly (if the item
41 > > were available at all).
42 > > Maybe that's communicated by colors, I don't know.
43 >
44 > Currently, the closest thing menuconfig provides is detailing the location of
45 > the `CONFIG_` option, in relation to the graphical menus one must navigate.
46 > Sometimes it's just easier to edit your `.config` manually; menuconfig can be
47 > terribly slow and cumbersome when you're only searching the option titles.
48 >
49 > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Accessibility
50 >
51 >
52
53 --
54
55 This problem needs handling by gentoo accessibility project and I'll take
56 it their.
57 If this problem gets solved, I'll probably make a podcast at least for
58 speakup and maybe orca if I get that installed and working. It won't be
59 of much use to gentoo, but the blinux-list may find it of interest.