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On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> On 01/26/2010 12:06 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> >> On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> >>>> Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :) |
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> >>> |
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> >>> It's a bit sad though that an open source project keeps secrets... I |
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> >>> found out that the tarballs were available for days now but only for |
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> >>> maintainers of KDE packages of various distros. For example Arch Linux |
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> >>> had RC2 binaries available in its [kde-unstable] repo since Jan 21, but |
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> >>> no one would give a link to the tarballs used to build the sources |
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> >>> because they are "secret". |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Am I the only one to find this frustrating (to say the least)? |
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> >> |
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> >> There's nothing secret here. Nothing to see, move along folks. |
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> >> |
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> >> The code is always available in svn, if you wanted it that bad you could |
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> >> have checked it out. It's common release engineering practice to build |
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> >> a tarball from the repo and provide limited access to *those* files to |
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> >> distros and mirrors to give them time to sync and build their binaries |
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> >> before making them available to the public. I mirror Ubuntu and Fedora. |
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> >> The deal is that I get the rpms and debs two days before the public |
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> >> does. This is so that every official mirror on the planet is ready to |
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> >> simultaneously publish the release *all*at*the*same*time*. |
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> >> |
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> >> This is a very excellent way of working. You have no idea how much chaos |
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> >> thousands of eager beaver users cause pounding away at my inbox if I |
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> >> don't have the latest Ubuntu for them the day it is released because |
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> >> sharks bit the undersea cable to London and the inbound bandwidth slows |
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> >> to a crawl. I'm not making this up - stuff like this happens. |
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> >> |
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> >> Gentoo erred in publishing ebuilds for tarballs that were not generally |
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> >> available yet. |
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> > |
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> > no, the user erred in stupid unmasking. |
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> The user used the provided unmask file |
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> (Documentation/package.unmask/kde-4.4). |
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before release. |
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Gentoo has a proud tradition of providing the ebuilds before the software is |
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released so as soon as the tarballs hit the mirrors you can start compiling. |
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If you unmask earlier and get errors you are the only person to blame. |
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