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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:28:12
Message-Id: hjl5r5$r3b$1@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs? by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 On 01/26/2010 12:06 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
2 > On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >> On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
4 >>>> Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :)
5 >>>
6 >>> It's a bit sad though that an open source project keeps secrets... I
7 >>> found out that the tarballs were available for days now but only for
8 >>> maintainers of KDE packages of various distros. For example Arch Linux
9 >>> had RC2 binaries available in its [kde-unstable] repo since Jan 21, but
10 >>> no one would give a link to the tarballs used to build the sources
11 >>> because they are "secret".
12 >>>
13 >>> Am I the only one to find this frustrating (to say the least)?
14 >>
15 >> There's nothing secret here. Nothing to see, move along folks.
16 >>
17 >> The code is always available in svn, if you wanted it that bad you could
18 >> have checked it out. It's common release engineering practice to build a
19 >> tarball from the repo and provide limited access to *those* files to
20 >> distros and mirrors to give them time to sync and build their binaries
21 >> before making them available to the public. I mirror Ubuntu and Fedora.
22 >> The deal is that I get the rpms and debs two days before the public does.
23 >> This is so that every official mirror on the planet is ready to
24 >> simultaneously publish the release *all*at*the*same*time*.
25 >>
26 >> This is a very excellent way of working. You have no idea how much chaos
27 >> thousands of eager beaver users cause pounding away at my inbox if I don't
28 >> have the latest Ubuntu for them the day it is released because sharks bit
29 >> the undersea cable to London and the inbound bandwidth slows to a crawl.
30 >> I'm not making this up - stuff like this happens.
31 >>
32 >> Gentoo erred in publishing ebuilds for tarballs that were not generally
33 >> available yet.
34 >>
35 >
36 > no, the user erred in stupid unmasking.
37
38 The user used the provided unmask file
39 (Documentation/package.unmask/kde-4.4).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.95 tarballs? Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>