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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 14:18:43
Message-Id: a85290eb-935f-44a6-ab7a-b34d4a6ab605@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:25 AM Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> If they are used as normal PC drives for regular writing
4 >> of data, or with back up commands which use rsync, cp, etc. then the disk will
5 >> fail much sooner than expected because of repeated multiple areas being
6 >> deleted, before each smaller write. I recall reading about how short the life
7 >> of SMR drives was shown to be when used in NAS devices - check google or
8 >> youtube if you're interested in the specifics.
9 > Can you give a link - I'm not finding anything, and I'm a bit dubious
10 > of this claim, because they still are just hard drives. These aren't
11 > SSDs and hard drives should not have any kind of erasure limit.
12 >
13 > Now, an SMR used for random writes is going to be a REALLY busy drive,
14 > so I could see the drive being subject to a lot more wear and tear.
15 > I'm just not aware of any kind of serious study. And of course any
16 > particular model of hard drive can have reliability issues (just look
17 > up the various reliability studies).
18 >
19
20 I ran up on this article however, it is a short time frame.  Still might
21 be a interesting read tho.
22
23 https://blogs.dropbox.com/tech/2019/07/smr-what-we-learned-in-our-first-year/
24
25 I'm still a bit curious and somewhat untrusting of those things tho. 
26 Regular hard drives go bad often enough as it is.  We don't need some
27 fancy unknown thing inserted just to add more issues.  Sort of reminds
28 me of the init thingy.  Each thing added is another failure point. 
29
30 I'm going to test my ebay skills and see if I can find some non-SMR
31 drives.  It sounds like some require some research to know if they are
32 or not.  :/
33
34 Dale
35
36 :-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>