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On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:19:29 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>> On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey |
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><peter@××××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>> >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>> >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? |
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>> > |
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>> >My first impression is one of horror. It's ghastly! |
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>> >I've never seen such profligate waste of screen space. I've attached |
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>a |
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>> >couple of screen shots to show you what I mean. |
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>> |
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>> Thanks :) |
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>> |
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>> >Take the folder list, for example. I used to be able to show all |
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>those |
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>> >folders in one panel with no scroll-bars, with no difficulty reading |
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>> >them; now eight folders spill over. I may be able to find a more |
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>compact |
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>> >arrangement but this is the best I've managed so far. At least with |
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>> >kmail:4 I could tweak Qt settings to condense it; now nothing I do |
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>makes |
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>> >any improvement. |
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>> |
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>> I would expect font settings. In kmail:4 there is a display part in |
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>the |
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>> settings menu. I never did anything directly with Qt to chamge |
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>anything. |
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>> I have too many folders anyway for it to fit (unless I would have a |
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>BIG |
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>> 4K screen...) |
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>You see how spaced out the folder list is? There's no setting for that |
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>in |
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>KMail as far as I can see. The Qt Configuration tool has an Interface |
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>tab. |
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>Under Global Strut you can set minimum width and height. The default is |
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>zero, giving Qt free rein to do what it likes, but I could set those to |
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>and kmail:4 would tuck all those folder entries up so that they fitted |
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>without scrolling. It has no effect on kmail:5 though. |
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> |
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>> >Then the message view. Message.png shows what your message looks |
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>like |
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>> >in this version of KMail (the message I'm replying to now). This is |
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>with |
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>> >all the bells and whistles I can find switched off. |
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>> That actually looks nice to me. Do the minus (-) blocks actually |
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>allow the |
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>> quotes to be folded up? |
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>To each his own of course, but for myself, I just want the text with |
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>some |
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>quoting. Yes the minus blocks do fold up, but all of them or none. |
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>There's |
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>no individual control. |
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>I found a new header selection. After switching it back from 5.2 style |
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>to |
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>Fancy, it's back the way I like it. |
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>> >Next, after I'd emerged kde-apps/kmai-16.12.0, it was incomplete. I |
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>had |
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>> >to |
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>> >install several other packages to complete it, including the import |
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>> >wizard. |
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>> >Rather than messing about, I just emerged kdepim-meta and had done |
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>with |
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>> >it. |
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>> >Even after doing that, I get "No backend available for spell |
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>checking," |
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>> >even |
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>> >though I've set everything up that I can see. Myspell and hunspell |
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>are |
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>> >both |
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>> >installed. |
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>> Hmm... that's not nice. Then again, I only use spell check for |
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>documents. |
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>> Not emails. Never really trusted those ever since I saw dictionaries |
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>get |
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>> automatically ruined by 'do you want to add this word to the |
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>dictionary'. |
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>Kmail:4 used to default to Australian English, no matter how many times |
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>I |
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>reminded it I'm in the UK. This one has no back-end at all. |
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>--->8 |
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>> >Nothing to do with KMail, but the display of gkrellm has changed |
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>> >dramatically. I use its Invisible theme, which hasn't actually been |
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>> >invisible since the switch from KDE-3 to 4, but it had a plain, |
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>> >unobtrusive |
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>> >grey scheme and showed what I wanted to see, clearly and with no |
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>drama. |
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>> >Now, |
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>> >the chart backgrounds have changed from charcoal-grey to a dark red, |
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>> >and |
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>> >what was grey is now a dreadful salmon-pink. Of course I can't see |
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>the |
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>> >red |
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>> >traces any longer. Perhaps I'm missing a KDE or Qt component. |
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>> Always possible. I tend to just install the meta stuff and be done |
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>with |
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>> it. |
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>I've found a lot more KDE-5 meta-packages and installed those, but they |
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>haven't helped with this. |
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>> >Oh, and when I start a reboot in KDE, akonadi crashes with a |
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>> >segmentation fault. |
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>> That is a bug. Hope it gets ironed out soon. Maybe still busy |
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>indexing |
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>> your emails? |
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>Could be. I'll try leaving it for an hour or two. |
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>Since I wrote, I've noticed that the messages I imported from kmail |
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>archive |
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>are not all in the right folders - about 2000 have magically jumped |
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>from the |
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>Purchases folder to the inbox. I'm also seeing a reversion to that old |
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>problem of silly numbers of duplicates appearing in random places at |
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>random |
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>times. I had hoped that would be among the first things to be ironed |
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>out in |
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>the :5 version. |
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>> >I dare say version 16.12.0 of KMail-2 will make a decent platform |
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>for |
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>> >development, now that it's finally here, but a very great deal of |
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>work |
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>> >lies ahead. I can see that I'll be doing my fair share of shouting |
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>too, |
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>> >at it and at the devs. |
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>> I'll try to get my desktop converted this week. And will join in the |
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>> bugreporting party. |
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>It would be good to have someone to compare notes with. |
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>--->8 |
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>> >I think I'll have to go down the pub to drown my sorrows. |
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>> Just don't climb behind the wheel of a car afterwards.... |
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>No, it's just a wee stroll. Takes longer to get my shoes on. :-) |
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Peter, |
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Quick update on the qtconfig. |
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On my machine, I can only find the qt4 version. There doesn't seem to be a qt5 version. |
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That explains why the setting doesn't work with kmail:5. |
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Joost |
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. |