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From: Christopher Dale <chrisd@××××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:33:29
Message-Id: 4766836E.7090603@ucmd.zapto.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules by Grant
1 Grant wrote:
2 >>>>>> Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
3 >>>>>> at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
4 >>>>>> things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
5 >>>>>> be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
6 >>>>>> is anything as satisfying as Gentoo out there. The concept is second
7 >>>>>> to none, the execution of that concept is fantastic, but it needs to
8 >>>>>> keep moving forward. What is the next step? Or should we keep
9 >>>>>> treading water?
10 >>>>>>
11 >>>>>>
12 >>>>> Is this a continuation?
13 >>>>> http://groups.google.de/group/linux.gentoo.user/browse_thread/thread/cc31581cbfa4d0e2/a0b4a5d52f0bc112
14 >>>>>
15 >>>>>
16 >>>> Yeah, it's me again.
17 >>>>
18 >>>>
19 >>>>
20 >>> I have a pretty small desktop system syncing weekly, and 2 others
21 >>> syncing from it. Every week I see upgrades in many packages, from
22 >>> system to desktop applications. I have 3 stable systems, with
23 >>> different roles (a server, a workstation and one in "dumb terminal
24 >>> with a web browser" mode), and they're completing 2 years of constant,
25 >>> careful and flawless upgrades.
26 >>>
27 >>> You don't need statistics, or reports, or whatever. This list is the
28 >>> living proof of Gentoo existence and the constant flow of information
29 >>> regarding it. Another good point is that BGO (bugs.gentoo.org) is also
30 >>> active, so, development is constant.
31 >>>
32 >>> I don't wanna sound rude, but this discussion is almost the same as
33 >>> that one, as unproductive and "starving for attention" too (but with a
34 >>> nice title), and this is the third edition. Don't get me wrong, but
35 >>> what exactly is the point of starting this threads? If you're worried
36 >>> about Gentoo slowing down or even dying, don't be, Gentoo is alive and
37 >>> kicking.
38 >>>
39 >>>
40 >>>
41 >> I would agree Daniel,
42 >>
43 >> There is always stuff rollin' in from all the gentoo lists... It's
44 >> almost ridiculous how many discussions and threads are going on in
45 >> there. In that respect, I completely agree that the Gentoo project is
46 >> far from idle. For another snapshot of just how active gentoo is, check
47 >> out the IRC channels (#gentoo) and as Daniel said, bugs.gentoo.org.
48 >>
49 >> "Don't get me wrong, but what exactly is the point of starting this
50 >> threads? If you're worried about Gentoo slowing down or even dying,
51 >> don't be, Gentoo is alive and kicking." - Daniel
52 >>
53 >> It's true :)
54 >>
55 >> Feel free to post any ideas you have to enhance Gentoo's base
56 >> functionality to the list though, I think you've roused everyone's
57 >> curiosity Grant :D
58 >>
59 >
60 > My ideas aren't really important unless they're everyone else's ideas
61 > too. I'm sure a lot of us would like to see the same kind of stuff
62 > happen. The weird thing is, none of it is happening. This must be
63 > due to a lack of devs or dev interest right? I can't understand that.
64 > Gentoo should be just getting started at this point, and yet people
65 > seem to think it's finished. Sooner or later other distros will
66 > accomplish things that make Gentoo seem inferior. Ease of use is a
67 > good example, but it's just an example. Advancements will continue
68 > and Gentoo will be left in the dust if it doesn't advance also.
69 >
70 > - Grant
71 >
72 Good point as far as Gentoo just beginning. However, the portage system
73 is very powerful, mature, and fully featured as is the stage3 used as
74 the foundation for the base install. After that, it's up to the software
75 developers for each individual package which decides how "new" the
76 package is as well as the administrator of the system (You) whether or
77 not to use "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" in order to pull the latest version (if
78 masked). Granted, it is also up to the Gentoo maintainers to make sure
79 the packages are ported correctly and as soon as possible. Is this
80 (portage maintainers) what you are referring too? Or are you referring
81 to Gentoo in a more broad sense as stagnating? If so, could you provide
82 some examples in which you see stagnation or less activity than you
83 believe we should be seeing.
84
85 Thanks Grant,
86
87 Christopher
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