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Dave Nebinger <dnebinger <at> joat.com> writes: |
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Thanks for the scripts and help! |
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> > I'll take this under consideration. My purpose in extending automated |
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> > updates, is to be able to manage a large number of embedded gentoo |
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> > devices in the future. Roll-back and Recovery mechanism will be |
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> > added later. Besides Gentoo needs to leave the laboratory |
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> > (purvey of experts) and enter the world of normal humanoids. That will |
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> > force the Gentoo community to make Gentoo a commodity technology for |
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> > the world's normal folks.....gentoo's destiny in my opinion. |
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> Oh, I'd tend to disagree. Source-based distributions IMHO would be a huge |
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> pain in the neck for those responsible for a large number of systems. Twer |
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> it up to me I'd be using a binary-based distro such as suse or redhat; let |
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> them work out the kinks so I wouldn't have to. |
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> I prefer running gentoo because I have total control over the box. Downtime |
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> at home simply means I can't surf or receive email; it also means that I |
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> have some good old down and dirty work ahead to get the box back up, which I |
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> enjoy. It's also a hassle that only I have to deal with, not a whole floor |
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> of workers sitting idle waiting for the problem to be resolved. |
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> But to be an admin over an office full of gentoo systems? Not sure I'd like |
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> that or that they would pay me what it would take to keep it functional. |
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> Unless, of course, all systems were exactly the same (hardware and software |
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> installations) and the users had minimal permissions to the systems (i.e. |
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> they could only write files to their home directories and nowhere else on |
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> the system, including /tmp & /var/tmp). |
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Well, I do not think we disagree at all. I'm ramping up to support 5-15 |
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gentoo user systems, to get some experience. My real goal is to learn |
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gentoo at a deeper level. When I roll out a new TCP/IP based data-logger |
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(hopefully this fall) it'll take sensor inputs and control a few outputs. |
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No humans will use the devices for anything other than interfacing |
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sensors and collecting data. |
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The experience I gain form helping kids/adults use Gentoo, will help me |
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manage thousands of dataloggers across public and private networks. |
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Besides if I screw it up, no big deal. They can always use a winblows |
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box until I get it fixed. Strict user control semantics will be |
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used to limit what they can screw up. |
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I'm also using jffnms to update and manage all sorts of routers and |
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industrial contols embedded devices. After some |
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time, I'm sure I'll roll my own solution, but for now, managing Gentoo |
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user systems and customizing JFFNMS for router and other snmp devices |
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is enough of to keep me busy. |
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Thanks again for all of your help! |
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sincerely, |
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James Horton |
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