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From: "Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@×××××.es>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:03:29
Message-Id: 78c525fb524498ccdcb4113e2d58304d.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? by Stroller
1 El Vie, 6 de Febrero de 2009, 5:40, Stroller escribió:
2 >
3 > less [-[+]aBcCdeEfFgGiIJKLmMnNqQrRsSuUVwWX~] [-b space] [-h lines] [-j
4 > line] [-k keyfile] [-{oO} logfile] [-p pattern] [-P prompt] [-t tag]
5 > [-T tagsfile] [-x tab,...] [-y lines] [-[z] lines]
6 > [-# shift] [+[+]cmd] [--] [filename]...
7 >
8 >
9 > doesn't make any sense to the untrained eye. It just looks like
10 > gobbledegook. There's maybe a Linux n00b manual that explains the syntax
11 > of man's "Synopsis", but I'm sure I only learned to translate the likes of
12 > the above after reading man pages for commands that I already knew -
13 > learned through inference, osmosis and newsgroups.
14
15 I have no idea if that's documented in any place.
16
17 >> If the problem is "contents" then that's nothing to do with
18 >> man, but with whomever made (or didn't made) the page.
19 >
20 > Yes, but there's a problem with the MAJORITY of contents, perhaps of
21 > the majority of people writing manpages? It just seems to be a culture of
22 > the way man pages are written. They make perfect sense only with
23 > experience - don't get me wrong, I love 'em and at least to a degree I
24 > think that's how it should be.
25 >
26 > But I think the criticism of someone who finds man pages difficult to
27 > read "your own inadequate ability to read technical documents, ...your own
28 > capacity for comprehension" is a tad unfair.
29
30 Yes. I wasn't implying that you were wrong, just giving
31 some general tips that could be useful if the problem was
32 one of those that I was enumerating.
33
34 But sometimes, the amount of info to present is simply overwhelming.
35 To name just a couple of man pages that are really excellent I'd say
36 that the fvwm and bash ones are really good. But being rather long
37 they are better suited as reference guides. They are not tutorials,
38 that's for sure.
39
40 That's where the network nature of unix like OSes break into scene,
41 learning without having access to internet is harder, I can tell
42 from experience in my beginnings.
43
44 About the age of the pages, well, some of the packages are so old
45 and rarely need updates that they go mostly unmaintained for ages.
46 It's just a guess anyway.
47
48 --
49 Jesús Guerrero

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Stroller <stroller@××××××××××××××××××.uk>