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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au> wrote: |
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>> I rather suspect that they are going after the cloud/VM market ... |
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>> having VM's boot quickly and simply along with no desire/need to fault |
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>> find and repair ... just rm it and spin up another instance. |
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> Nothing to 'suspect'... they have made it very clear that that is precisely |
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> where this (systemd) is coming from. |
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>> It makes sense in that market ... what doesn't is pushing it into areas |
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>> that are not appropriate and people dont want it. |
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> Exactly, and exactly. |
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>> I still have not seen an adequate explanation as to why systemd isn't a |
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>> profile as its far more intrusive than a gnome/kde choice and they have |
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>> profiles. That way some bad choices like polluting systems with systemd |
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>> files because they are only small and insignificant might be avoided. I |
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>> have used the mask method but did waste some time on chasing down odd |
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>> errors due to missing file errors in the logs so I would rather not have |
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>> them on the system at all. |
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>> So why not a profile so those guys who want to play can get a |
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>> configuration that better suits them? |
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> I have to say that makes the most sense to me... |
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> Would love to hear *rational* comments from the systemd purveyors as to why |
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> this shouldn't be done. |
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Yohan already say it: you would need to do several combinations |
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(systemd+GNOME, systemd+KDE, systemd+SELinux, etc.) |
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Your "polluted" files are nothing (3MB, including binaries in a |
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*systemd* installation... if you don't use systemd they should take |
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less than 512KB); you don't want the profile "solution" for technical |
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reasons, you want it for political reasons. |
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That is not going to happen, and the (majority of) Gentoo maintainers |
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(including the council) already stated that, if you don't want systemd |
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unit files "polluting" your system, please use INSTALL_MASK. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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