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From: Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 12:02:42
Message-Id: 2603445.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn
In Reply to: Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates) by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 12:40:28 BST Michael Orlitzky wrote:
2 > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:17 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
3 > > It's not that easy to do it with internal-only systems as Let's Encrypt
4 > > requires the hostname to be known externally.
5 > > And there are plenty of devices you do not want the whole internet to know
6 > > about.
7 >
8 > And in this situation LetsEncrypt does nothing but make security worse:
9 >
10 > * You have to trust the entire CA infrastructure rather than just your
11 > own CA. Many of the CAs are not just questionable, but like the
12 > governments of the USA and China, known to be engaged in large-scale
13 > man-in-the-middle attacks.
14 >
15 > * The LetsEncrypt certificates expire after three months, as opposed
16 > to 10+ years for a self-signed certificate. You're supposed to
17 > automate this... by running a script as root that takes input from
18 > the web? I'd rather not do that.
19 >
20 > * LetsEncrypt verifies your identity over plain HTTP (like every other
21 > commercial CA), so it's all security theater in the first place.
22 >
23 > There are plenty of arguments against LE even for public sites, but for
24 > private ones, it's a lot more clear-cut...
25
26 So what would you recommend for someone in the case Joost cites? I'm in that
27 position, being a home user of a small network but no registered Internet
28 name.
29
30 --
31 Regards,
32 Peter.

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Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates) Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o>