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On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@×××××××.pt> wrote: |
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> On 2013-03-22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, João Matos <jaoneto@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> Hi list, |
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>>> do you know some guide to switch form systemd to openrc, or keep both? I |
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>>> googled and I didn't find. |
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>>> The motivation is that I'm studing many server stuff, and I'm tired of |
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>>> search for alternatives to systemd (that is really good). I also set up some |
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>>> servers, using openrc on them, so, sometimes I like to reproduce the |
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>>> configuration o my machine. |
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>>> If possible, I prefer to keep both. If not, I'll switch back to openrc. |
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>>> I've enable the openrc user flag, updated the system, I created a grub |
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>>> entrace, and everything seems to work pretty well on openrc, but I cant |
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>>> start the X. "no screens found", but dbus, udev and consolekit are started |
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>>> without error. |
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>>> |
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>>> Everything is working with systemd. |
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>> For "server stuff", you should have no problem. If the machine where |
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>> you want to have both systemd and OpenRC also works as a desktop |
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>> workstation, right now that is not possible; there are several desktop |
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>> packages that cannot decide at run time if they use systemd (actually, |
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>> logind) or ConsoleKit (polkit being the most obvious). |
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> Are these packages essential or the like? I don't think my desktop |
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> systems have dependencies either on systemd or polkit/consolekit. |
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If you don't need user session monitoring for anything (which is what |
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ConsoleKit and logind provides), nor interactive privilege granting |
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(which is what polkit provides), then I believe you will have no |
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problems switching OpenRC and systemd withouth needing to recompile |
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anything. However, that means no upower and no udisks at least; GNOME |
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cannot run without any of those. XFCE needs them if the udev USE flag |
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is enabled, which is enabled by default in Gentoo desktop profiles, |
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and in KDE the three of them are optional dependencies turned on by |
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default. You can turn them of in XFCE and KDE, but you kinda lose |
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functionality without them. |
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> What is logind used for? |
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User session monitoring, as ConsoleKit did, only better: |
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http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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