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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap
Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 09:54:13
Message-Id: ca7a77b3-3d38-283a-e77f-cfe7cd1e92c5@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap by Michael
1 Michael wrote:
2 > On Saturday, 2 May 2020 09:53:06 BST Dale wrote:
3 >> Wols Lists wrote:
4 >>> On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote:
5 >>>> It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing.
6 >>>> Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10.
7 >>>>
8 >>>> Given the cheapness of hard drives, I'm not sure why having several
9 >>>> gigabytes of swap space is of much concern. I have the same amount of
10 >>>> ram as you and I have a 12GB swap space. I use LVM so I can grow it if
11 >>>> needed or just add another swap space. I might add, I've seen times
12 >>>> where it gets used.
13 >>> That first paragraph is why too much swap space is bad - if an app goes
14 >>> rogue it can kill system response and make regaining control of the
15 >>> system a nightmare.
16 >>>
17 >>> Accidentally or on purpose, if a system runs out of ram and starts
18 >>> thrashing, you're in big trouble if it's an app eating memory like no
19 >>> tomorrow.
20 >>>
21 >>> Cheers,
22 >>> Wol
23 >>>
24 >>> .
25 >> That's why I set swapiness to a low number. I don't want it to use swap
26 >> unless it is to prevent a crash. If I set it to a higher number, it
27 >> wants to use swap even when there is memory available. Once it starts
28 >> using swap, it gets slow. The more it uses, the worse it gets.
29 >> However, it beats it rebooting without umounting partitions and such.
30 >> If nothing else, it may give me time to use the alt-sys sequence.
31 >>
32 >> I'm maxed out on memory at the moment but wish I could get and afford
33 >> 64GBs, in a way. Still, I'd have a swap partition.
34 >>
35 >> Dale
36 >>
37 >> :-) :-)
38 > I'd be interested to know as a comparison if Nikos' and Dale's I/O
39 > unresponsiveness in swapping sees an improvement with the I/O scheduler for
40 > spinning drives set to bfq; e.g.:
41 >
42 > echo bfq > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
43
44 This is its setting at the moment. 
45
46
47 root@fireball / # cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
48 noop deadline [cfq]
49 root@fireball / #
50
51
52 I know I can echo it in but where do I set that to that when booting? 
53 Same as swappiness??  I'm willing to set it and see what it does next
54 time swap pops into gear.  Given it is me, it may not be to long.  LOL 
55 I have to say, while sddm-helper is still absorbing to much memory, it
56 is holding steady at around 1GB or 3.3%.  It's nowhere near enough to
57 test this theory, yet.  :/
58
59 Dale
60
61 :-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com>