Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!

[Holly Bostick]

Mark Knecht schreef:
> Hi Holly, I thought that if you liked it that much I thought I might
> as well take a look. I've emerged it. It's running. Nice.
>
> It seems to start esd by default. I'd need to turn that off.
>
> More embedded below and at the end.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick <motub@××××××.nl> wrote:
>
>> I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor.
>>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> I upgraded and just now booted into it, which is why I'm sitting
>> with my jaw on the floor.
>
>
> Cover it if you're still spreading germs! ;-)
>
>> It works...!
>>
>> It's gorgeous...!
>
>
> It's now running on my AMD64 machine and it is quite pretty.
>
>
>> The new site is up, and it's in English...! (no docs yet, though,
>> as far as I saw.)
>>
>> I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all
>> transparent), and when I click on one of the icons-- let's say the
>> OO.o icon, a menu that actually has all my word processing programs
>> appears! The Firefox icon menu shows all my 'interact with the web'
>> apps, and the thunderbird icon menu has all my 'communicate with
>> others' programs.
>>
>> OK, maybe not quite all of them, but almost. More than enough to
>> get along with and give me some choice (I have multiple
>> alternatives applications for some types of usage situations), and
>> enough to see that 1) both KDE and GNOME menu listings are being
>> read, and 2) applications are being recognized and sorted
>> reasonably appropriately. I probably will want to customize it a
>> bit further, but on the whole, I would say it JustWorks-- it's
>> certainly useable for me, as is, out of the box. Which is
>> unbelievable, for any variant of FVWM, imo.
>
>
> I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's
> only been runnign 10 minutes or so.

Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then

Preferences=>Used Recipe ("layouts" are now called "Recipes") and choose
"Dock". Avoid "Clean Vertical", as that seems to only use a pager, no
menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change
recipes again, since I haven't configured for "just a term" setup, and I
don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup.

I also changed the button layout to Windows-style-- one thing I never
liked about Crystal was that you can't click the close button and just
close the stupid program (without reconfiguring), and having to go
through that ^%$#% menu to 'Iconify Close Destroy' was making me nuts.

>
> One thing I do not see is my special little application drawers I had
>  on my Gnome panel. Not a biggie...

I would imagine that you can create them if the provided drawers are not
sufficient-- this is, after all, still FVWM. I just don't know how to do
it yet, but the config seems like it might be more manageable than
'regular' FVWM, if the one file I've looked at is any indication.
>
> There were some setup instructions at the very end:
>
> * * After installation, execute following commands: *  $ cp -r
> /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xresources ~/.Xresources *  $ cp -r
> /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xsession ~/.xinitrc * * Authors of
> fvwm-crystal recommend also installing * the following applications:
>  *  app-admin/gkrellm *  app-misc/rox *  media-gfx/scrot *
> x11-misc/xlockmore *  x11-misc/xpad *  x11-misc/xscreensaver *
> x11-terms/aterm *
>
> How much of this did you do? I've done none and it's running.

I didn't do any either-- I didn't even notice it, so thanks for the
heads-up. I probably do want at least to copy .Xresources. Most of these
applications I already have installed, and the ones I don't, I don't
want. I actually don't want a couple of the ones I do have installed,
notably rox, which I cannot find it in me to like. I will have a look at
scrot, though-- don't know what it is, but media-gfx programs always
bear further examination.
>
> Quite nice.

I went back by the site, and it looks like its the same developer, he's
just rewritten everything. His time has been well-spent. I'll have to
drop him a note.

Holly
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