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On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick <motub@××××××.nl> wrote: |
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> Mark Knecht schreef: |
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> > Hi Holly, I thought that if you liked it that much I thought I might |
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> > as well take a look. I've emerged it. It's running. Nice. |
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> > |
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> > It seems to start esd by default. I'd need to turn that off. |
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> > More embedded below and at the end. |
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> > - Mark |
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> > |
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> > |
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> > On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick <motub@××××××.nl> wrote: |
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> >> I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. |
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> >> |
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> > <SNIP> |
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> > |
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> >> I upgraded and just now booted into it, which is why I'm sitting |
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> >> with my jaw on the floor. |
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> > |
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> > |
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> > Cover it if you're still spreading germs! ;-) |
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> > |
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> >> It works...! |
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> >> |
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> >> It's gorgeous...! |
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> > |
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> > |
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> > It's now running on my AMD64 machine and it is quite pretty. |
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> > |
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> >> The new site is up, and it's in English...! (no docs yet, though, |
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> >> as far as I saw.) |
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> >> |
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> >> I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all |
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> >> transparent), and when I click on one of the icons-- let's say the |
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> >> OO.o icon, a menu that actually has all my word processing programs |
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> >> appears! The Firefox icon menu shows all my 'interact with the web' |
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> >> apps, and the thunderbird icon menu has all my 'communicate with |
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> >> others' programs. |
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> >> |
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> >> OK, maybe not quite all of them, but almost. More than enough to |
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> >> get along with and give me some choice (I have multiple |
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> >> alternatives applications for some types of usage situations), and |
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> >> enough to see that 1) both KDE and GNOME menu listings are being |
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> >> read, and 2) applications are being recognized and sorted |
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> >> reasonably appropriately. I probably will want to customize it a |
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> >> bit further, but on the whole, I would say it JustWorks-- it's |
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> >> certainly useable for me, as is, out of the box. Which is |
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> >> unbelievable, for any variant of FVWM, imo. |
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> > I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's |
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> > only been runnign 10 minutes or so. |
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> |
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> Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then |
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> Preferences=>Used Recipe ("layouts" are now called "Recipes") and choose |
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> "Dock". Avoid "Clean Vertical", as that seems to only use a pager, no |
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> menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change |
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> recipes again, since I haven't configured for "just a term" setup, and I |
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> don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup. |
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OK, thanks. I selected Dock. It wants me to restart. Can I do this |
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within FVWM without exiting? I think I could in fluxbox. Right now I'm |
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running a very, very successful audio experiment. Been running Jack |
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for about an hour. I have Aqualung hooked up and playing audio from a |
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1394 drive. At the same time I'm running xine and playing 'Panic |
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Room'. So far not a single xrun in Jack, at least at 11mS. This has |
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been a big problem for me in Gnome on AMD64. FVWM looks like it might |
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be a better audio environment for me on this box. |
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> I also changed the button layout to Windows-style-- one thing I never |
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> liked about Crystal was that you can't click the close button and just |
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> close the stupid program (without reconfiguring), and having to go |
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> through that ^%$#% menu to 'Iconify Close Destroy' was making me nuts. |
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I chose this also. I'm still having some trouble with raising windows |
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to the top. I like to click anywhere within a window and it comes to |
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the top. Also I like to use Alt-Tab to rotate. It seems to work most |
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of the time but not always, at least so far. Minor annoyance as it's |
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probably fixable. |
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> > |
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> > One thing I do not see is my special little application drawers I had |
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> > on my Gnome panel. Not a biggie... |
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> I would imagine that you can create them if the provided drawers are not |
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> sufficient-- this is, after all, still FVWM. I just don't know how to do |
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> it yet, but the config seems like it might be more manageable than |
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> 'regular' FVWM, if the one file I've looked at is any indication. |
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> > There were some setup instructions at the very end: |
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> > * * After installation, execute following commands: * $ cp -r |
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> > /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xresources ~/.Xresources * $ cp -r |
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> > /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xsession ~/.xinitrc * * Authors of |
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> > fvwm-crystal recommend also installing * the following applications: |
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> > * app-admin/gkrellm * app-misc/rox * media-gfx/scrot * |
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> > x11-misc/xlockmore * x11-misc/xpad * x11-misc/xscreensaver * |
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> > x11-terms/aterm * |
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> > How much of this did you do? I've done none and it's running. |
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> I didn't do any either-- I didn't even notice it, so thanks for the |
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> heads-up. I probably do want at least to copy .Xresources. Most of these |
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> applications I already have installed, and the ones I don't, I don't |
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> want. I actually don't want a couple of the ones I do have installed, |
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> notably rox, which I cannot find it in me to like. I will have a look at |
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> scrot, though-- don't know what it is, but media-gfx programs always |
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> bear further examination. |
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Yeah, I'll look at these later myself. |
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> > |
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> > Quite nice. |
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> I went back by the site, and it looks like its the same developer, he's |
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> just rewritten everything. His time has been well-spent. I'll have to |
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> drop him a note. |
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> Holly |
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Send it from both of us. I'm certainly impressed. There are some |
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configuration issues I'd need to conquer. I'm having a hell of a time |
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resizing terminals. Seems that the lower right corner is too small to |
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grab easily. I'd like the terminal to be transparent by default. I |
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need to learn how to set up all my audio apps - Aqualung, Ardour, |
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QJackCtl, LinuxSampler, etc., but that will come if I stick with it. |
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So far a nice step forward at least on my AMD64 machine currently |
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running ck-sources in 64-bit mode. |
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Cheers, |
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Mark |
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