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On Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:53:00 BST tuxic@××××××.de wrote: |
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> On 05/16 01:04, Dale wrote: |
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> > tuxic@××××××.de wrote: |
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> > > On 05/16 12:46, Dale wrote: |
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> > >> tuxic@××××××.de wrote: |
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> > >>> Hi, |
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> > >>> |
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> > >>> I am trying to figure out the best settings (performance wise) for a |
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> > >>> AMD Ryzen 5 3600 with a MSI Tomahawk max motherboard. |
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> > >>> |
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> > >>> I don't want to overclock -- tweaking the bios is for finding |
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> > >>> the optimal setting in oposite to waste performance via sub-optimal |
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> > >>> settings like not activateing XMP profile and running the RAM at |
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> > >>> JEDEC speeds instead of what the vendor guaranties. |
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> > >>> |
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> > >>> Unfortunately, there are quite a view settings to which I didn't |
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> > >>> find any explanation, for what they are good. |
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> > >>> |
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> > >>> Any help is very appreciated! :) |
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> > >>> |
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> > >>> Cheers, |
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> > >>> Meino |
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> > >> |
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> > >> I usually buy boards that can overclock but don't do it. What I |
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> > >> usually |
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> > >> look for once I get my CPU, memory and all installed, the selection for |
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> > >> optimized settings or something to that effect. I've always found that |
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> > >> that setting works pretty darn well. I had to tweak the IOMMU or |
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> > >> something setting but other than that, I let it detect the best |
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> > >> settings. If I upgrade the BIOS, I repeat that on the first boot up. |
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> > >> In my experience, it picks good safe settings that result in stable |
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> > >> systems. |
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> > >> |
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> > >> I've never had a MSI mobo, yet, so it may be called something different |
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> > >> but even Dell and Gateway usually have something similar to choose. It |
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> > >> may be worth looking into . |
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> > >> |
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> > >> Dale |
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> > >> |
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> > >> :-) :-) |
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> > > |
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> > > Hi Dale, |
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> > > |
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> > > thanks for your info! :) |
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> > > |
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> > > I think it is called "Auto" with the MSI bios. |
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> > > When using this, JEDEC timings and a command rate of 2 |
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> > > instead of 1 are choosen for DDR4 (as an example)...which |
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> > > isn't optimal. |
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> > > |
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> > > These "Auto" were the reason for better settings. |
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> > > I think I have to tweak the bios settings by hand... |
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> > > |
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> > > Cheers! |
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> > > Meino |
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> > |
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> > Maybe for once I got lucky and something worked. ROFL I once visited |
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> > the overclockers forum and found a listing for the "safe" settings for |
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> > all sorts of Mobo and CPU and memory combinations. That was back in my |
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> > ABIT NF7?? days. I don't know if they still post those or not. The |
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> > overclockers forum isn't just about overclocking. They have info on |
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> > what is considered safe as well. May be worth searching for info there |
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> > as well as what people share here. If you lucky, someone has the same |
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> > hardware you have and can share a screenshot or something. |
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> > |
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> > This is a link to the home page. You can get to the forums as well as |
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> > how-tos and such from there. |
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> > |
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> > https://www.overclockers.com/ |
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> > |
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> > Hope that helps. Even one piece of good info can make it worthwhile. |
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> > You don't want the smoke to get out of a chip or something. o_O |
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> > |
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> > Dale |
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> > |
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> > :-) :-) |
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> Hi Dale, |
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> without your help/info I would have NEVER checked an overclockers |
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> forum for information about the direct opposite of it ! ;) |
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> Thanks a lot, Dale! Will grep the forum there! |
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> Cheers! |
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> Meino |
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Clicking on Auto, or default settings should give you a system which boots, |
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but may be suboptimal compared to the capabilities of your hardware. I don't |
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have the same hardware with you to compare notes, but the way I go about it is |
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I increase the RAM frequency to the maximum the DRAM manufacturer recommends, |
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dialing back the DRAM timings as necessary to ensure stability. I also |
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increase the CPU frequency, by adding to the CPU voltage offset but again |
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within reason - the idea is to let it run at frequencies it was designed for, |
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rather than cook the chip. With minimal tweaking like that I get a high |
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performing CPU/RAM combo, but always with stability, way below maximum |
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voltages and frequencies. |
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The other thing I avoid is clicking on any auto-O/C 'performance' settings. I |
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have found they increase the voltage unnecessarily and often create an |
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unstable system and a noisy cooling fan. It goes without saying an |
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aftermarket CPU cooler is a must before you start pushing your MoBo. |
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If you google and check youtube.com you'll see what people get up to with your |
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hardware, but always use your judgment and err on the side of caution. |
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Overclockers tend to boast how close to destruction they have pushed their |
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hardware, until the next model is released - so their settings are typically |
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an example of what you should avoid rather than emulate. |