Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

[hasufell]

On 09/21/2014 07:23 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:
>> Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:
>>>>> • "There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX "do one
>>>>> thing and do it well" model where many workflows can be done as a
>>>>> pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face
>>>>> it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major
>>>>> applications have been working or been designed for a long time. It's
>>>>> a useful simplification, and it's still true at *some* level, but I
>>>>> think it's also clear that it doesn't really describe most of
>>>>> reality."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't make an actual argument why useful abstraction cannot be done
>>>> in complex systems.
>>>
>>> He doesn't need to;
>>
>> Sure he does.
>
> No, he does not, because the link I posted was not an argument, was an
> interview and he was asked for his opinion, and in no moment was he
> asked to justify his opinion.
>
> You, on the other hand, seem to be arguing. I don't know exactly with
> whom, because surely is not with me.
>

Then please just refrain from answering if you don't understand how my
point matters in terms of systemd development, thanks.