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On 12/17/2016 12:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:55:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: |
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>>> Well, he is a Red Hat employee. Nobody really debates that. |
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>> Maybe it's not intentional spyware malice, but rather that home users |
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>> are being jerked around while Redhat re-writes linux as a corporate OS. |
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>> Systemd does all sorts of management that isn't really required by the |
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>> regular home user, but Redhat doesn't give a hoot about their experience |
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>> being made more difficult. Redhat only cares about their paying |
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>> customers. |
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> Any non-trivial, off the shelf software does more than you need it to, |
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> it's the only way to be sure it does not do less than you need it to. I'd |
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> rather a program have ten features I don't need than be missing one that |
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> I do. |
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>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one |
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>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. Now the name |
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>> varies in each machine depending on the motherboard layout; oogabooga11? |
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>> foobar42? It may be static, but you don't know what it'll be, without |
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>> first booting the machine. In a truly Orwellian twist, this "feature" |
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>> is referred to as "Predictable" Network Interface Names. It only makes |
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>> things easier for corporate machines acting as gateways/routers, with |
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>> multiple ports. |
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> It wouldn't be so bad if they had provided an easy way to revert to the |
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> old behaviour like maybe a boot option or touching a file in /etc :( |
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>> Again, the average home user is being jerked around for |
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>> a corporate agenda. |
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> Yes, it is disgusting that developers add the options desired by those |
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> that pay their wages while completely ignoring the users that give them |
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> nothing! It's almost like they are scratching their employer's itch while |
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> ignoring yours. |
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> Really, no one is forcing you to use anything. If you don't like the way |
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> particular piece of software is going, you can get a full refund and |
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> switch to something else. |
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That argument doesn't really offer anything of substance in return. |
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Yeah, "just use something else", until whatever entity has completely |
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owned the platform. What then? Switch platforms ad nauseum? At some |
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point, you need to take some sort of action. Talking about it is a good |
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start. It helps formulate and refine ideas that can turn into real, |
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tangible action. Usually it just ends in a fork; though there's nothing |
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wrong with that. It's a feature, not a bug. |
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I get where you're coming from, but Walter's talking about a real |
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concern when it comes to libre software and corporate involvement. The |
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profit motive has the potential to devastate community-oriented |
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operations, be they libre software, swimming pools, common areas, |
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municipal Internet, or even housing efforts. That potential for damage |
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should be baked into any community-based operation's decision-making |
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process. Sometimes a partnership can be great (like getting hosting from |
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a reseller for a rebate in return for some consulting or mentoring on |
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the side), sometimes it's bad (losing license to a given piece of |
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software because you wanted to improve or correct it (Linus and |
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BitKeeper, for the uninitiated))) |
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Just consider the source of all the 'innovations' coming down the pike, |
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and ask yourself why they wrote that software. I think that's solid |
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advice no matter what your opinion of corporations is. |
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Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer |
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