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From: James Wall <wallservices@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about SATA and hot plugging.
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:06:22
Message-Id: 4D095C38.4080606@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about SATA and hot plugging. by meino.cramer@gmx.de
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4 On 12/14/10 12:28, meino.cramer@×××.de wrote:
5 > Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> [10-12-14 18:56]:
6 >> meino.cramer@×××.de wrote:
7 >>> Hi Dale,
8 >>>
9 >>> as I know, the hd hardware can't nearly as fast as the bus speed
10 >>> regardless whether it is 6GB/s or 3GB/s.
11 >>> Quickly doing the same as you on my harddisk gave:
12 >>>
13 >>> /dev/sda:
14 >>> Timing cached reads: 6726 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3364.06 MB/sec
15 >>> Timing buffered disk reads: 318 MB in 3.00 seconds = 105.93 MB/sec
16 >>>
17 >>> The speeds of 6 GB/s or 3GB/s are only reached, when reading data
18 >>> directly from the hd cache.
19 >>>
20 >>> I dont know, what motherboard you use. But the settings you describe
21 >>> seem to be identical to mine.
22 >>>
23 >>> Important is:
24 >>> In the BIOS go to the hd section and look, what the BIOS think the
25 >>> speed of your hd is (3 GB/s or 6GB/s). When found directly set you
26 >>> SATA chip to that speed. It is recommended to do so by the help of
27 >>> text of my BIOS. I have a 3GB/s disk. And yes, IDE is ok.
28 >>>
29 >>> Here you can find explanations about AHCI vs. IDE sata mode.
30 >>> http://www.techarp.com/showfreebog.aspx?lang=0&bogno=316
31 >>>
32 >>> On my board (ASUS Crosshair IV Formula) it was said, that AHCI is
33 >>> slower than IDE, but (!) is not due to IDE vs. AHCI but to a
34 >>> limitation of the chip.
35 >>>
36 >>> Look at the benchmarks above: There no place to go faster than that.
37 >>> 3/6 GB/s on cach read are standard compliant and ~100 MB/s is the
38 >>> limitation of hardware normal people like you and me can pay for.
39 >>>
40 >>> Plug on the front:
41 >>> This seems to be E-Sata jack AND SHOULD BE CONNECTED INTERNALLY ONLY
42 >>> TO AN E-SATA (not SATA) JACK ON THE MOBO.
43 >>>
44 >>> In unmounted status: Yes it should be hotpluggable as USB. BUT dont
45 >>> connect the E-SATA jack of the case to a normal SATA jack on the
46 >>> board!
47 >>>
48 >>> E-SATA != SATA !!!!
49 >>>
50 >>> HTH
51 >>> mcc
52 >>>
53 >>>
54 >>
55 >> Sounds like I am normal on speed. Still wonder why they call it
56 >> "advanced" tho. Hype maybe? ;-)
57 >>
58 >> I noticed when I did some searching that the eSATA connectors have sort
59 >> of a L shape to them. All the SATA connectors have a L shape to them
60 >> on my mobo.
61 >>
62 >> I think for safety's sake, I think I will shutdown first. The biggest
63 >> reason I was wondering is because it is on the front next to the USB
64 >> plugs too. Just made me wonder.
65 >>
66 >> Dale
67 >>
68 >> :-) :-)
69 >>
70 >
71 > You know AGP (_Advanced_ graphics port), Dale?
72 > You know, why _this_ is "advanced"?
73 >
74 > Look at USB 2.0?
75 >
76 > Names like "Full speed" and "High speed" are only sands in the eyes of
77 > the others.
78 >
79 > Names only names...
80 >
81 > Why they increase SATA to currently 6GB/s to read from...guess... the
82 > RAM of a hd?
83 Solid State drives can max out a 3Gb/s connection because it is not a
84 mechanical drive where the sector is moving under the head of a drive.
85 the Solid state drive just sends the data out instantly to get to the CPU.
86 >
87 > Ok, I begin to become cycnic.... ;)
88 >
89 > Be the boot be with you!
90 > Use the source, Luke!
91 > And: No, I am _NOT_ you father... ;)
92 >
93 > mcc
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