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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> Well what do you know?! Alternative to monolithic stack solutions now exist |
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> as alternatives for other distros too: |
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> https://sourceforge.net/projects/archopenrc/ |
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> PS. I do not wish to kick off a flame war on this topic, enough electrons have |
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> been wasted in past rants. Just to inform those who may be interested in |
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> this. |
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Interesting. It looks like they bundle all their openrc scripts in |
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the openrc package. I was curious about this since the right place to |
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put scripts is one of those things that tends to come up in debate. |
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In Gentoo openrc, systemd, and anything else keep their scripts in the |
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packages they go with. |
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Pros: |
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- You don't end up with scripts for packages you don't use. |
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- The openrc/systemd/runit/upstart/etc packages don't get bumped 3 |
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times per week when any script changes anywhere (IMO the biggest |
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driver) |
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- If upstream provides the scripts (common for systemd, less so for |
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openrc but it may happen) then make install can take care of them |
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Cons: |
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- You do end up with scripts for service managers you don't use |
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(assuming you don't mask them). |
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- Individual package maintainers have to be at least somewhat |
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concerned with these scripts even if they don't use the service |
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manager they apply to. |
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I think the Gentoo way is better because of the elimination of bumps. |
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However, Arch is much more strongly in the systemd camp (as I |
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understand it), so I suspect there would be more resistance there to |
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maintaining openrc scripts inside individual packages. So, openrc |
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ended up having to bundle them all in one package. The Gentoo |
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approach took a Council decision as some package maintainers objected |
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to the inclusion of systemd units. Other than the initial debate IMO |
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it has gone smoothly since. |
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And a parting bit of trivia: The overwhelming majority of |
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Gentoo-based installations use upstart as their service manager, |
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despite it not even being in the Gentoo repository. |
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Rich |
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