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From: William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:07:58
Message-Id: 1295325758.21821.45.camel@rattus
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges by Grant
1 On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 16:23 -0800, Grant wrote:
2 > > I think the idea is never use swap if possible, but in a case where
3 > > you don't have swap space or run out of swap space I think it's still
4 > > possible to lose data.
5 >
6 > Isn't swap just an extension of system memory? Isn't adding 4GB of
7 > memory just as effective at preventing out-of-memory as dedicating 4GB
8 > of HD space to swap? I can understand enabling swap on a laptop or
9 > other system with constrained memory capacity, but doesn't it make
10 > sense to disable swap and add memory on a 24GB server?
11 >
12 > Is swap basically a way to save money on RAM?
13 >
14 > - Grant
15 >
16
17 No swap contains pages from memory that have not been accessed for
18 awhile so they can be stored elsewhere freeing ram for actual active
19 pages. When they need to be accessed, they have to be swapped back in,
20 and often something swapped back out to make room for it.
21
22 And for those with gigabytes of swap, keep in mind that the majority of
23 processors can only access up to 32 x 2G swapfiles under linux, so 4G is
24 only going to be half used. Some processors are only able to handle
25 very small swapfiles, whilst amd opterons can handle very large ones.
26
27 It does appear however that some distros (redhat and suse ?) have
28 modified something to allow larger swap sizes on 64bit systems, but via
29 google it seems very muddy at the moment.
30
31 On my mostly 32bit systems its only the opterons (which are running
32 64bit systems) that can access more than 2G swap using gentoo-sources
33 kernels when I tested late last year.
34
35 BillK
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38 --
39 William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
40 Home in Perth!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: Near freezes during large emerges nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges kashani <kashani-list@××××××××.net>