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From: Iain Buchanan <iaindb@××××××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:32:24
Message-Id: 1200357115.12251.20.camel@orpheus
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? by James
1 On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 19:47 +0000, James wrote:
2 > Jil Larner <jil <at> gnoo.eu> writes:
3 >
4 >
5 > > May I suggest you split the discussion if you continue about licensing,
6 > > so we can keep a clear topic on Daniel's come back ?
7 >
8 > I only use licensing as an example (that I'm willing to defend
9 > as long as it takes) to support the notion of vehicles to
10 > generate revenue around the 'gentoo engine'. After all, if
11 > you look at Daniel's recent past, he's been searching for ways
12 > to use Gentoo, to *make money*. Several folks have pointed out
13 > that the majority of people believe that using (gentoo) linux to
14 > make money is a good idea. Daniel has been with lots of ventures
15 > in the recent past. Gentoo is his next 'bidness'.
16
17 By friday (or saturday) we will know whether or not DRobbins has been
18 accepted, and shortly after you will know if it is his plan to
19 commercialise Gentoo (which I personally don't think he is about to do).
20 If he does (there are a lot of if's leading up to this) then surely you
21 can apply to work on the project. And just like Fedora, there will be a
22 "free" split.
23
24 If this doesn't happen, you can of course start your own commercial
25 Gentoo project. Write an installer that can handle multiple PC's
26 easily, polish some business aspects (printer admin, domain control,
27 security), and write some scripts to share the compile amongst multiple
28 business machines and install from packages, and away you go.
29
30 I don't see a problem with the RedHat / Fedora model, but it doesn't
31 suit Gentoo in it's current form. Firstly, Fedora is the spin off, and
32 I can't see Gentoo agreeing to accept direction from a commercial
33 parent. Secondly if the current team were to become the commercial
34 entity and spin off a free child, I can see from the attitudes of the
35 current devs that they are not focused on a highly polished and business
36 attractive product. They're not interested in a flashy installer for
37 example (which is fine) or binary packages.
38
39 In fact, given the "love" that the collective devs have for DRobbins, I
40 can see them either say "no", or nothing at all. Which means either
41 DRobbins, or someone else, will take Gentoo and fork it. The two
42 distributions will probably grow to hate each other, although they may
43 occasionally share problems and fixes, but certainly neither will have
44 control or direction over the other.
45
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47 Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>
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