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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:09:35
Message-Id: CA+czFiDDR_wQ8SJg-rZfR0qp1Hc+fe9dH9=uTSK_2GaCtcti6g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro by Alan McKinnon
1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>wrote:
2
3 > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400
4 > Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
5 >
6 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon
7 > > <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>wrote:
8 > >
9 > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200
10 > > > Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> wrote:
11 > > >
12 > > > > Michael Mol writes:
13 > > > >
14 > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick
15 > > > > > <neil@××××××××××.uk <mailto:neil@××××××××××.uk>> wrote:
16 > > > >
17 > > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P
18 > > > > >
19 > > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'"
20 > > > >
21 > > > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using
22 > > > > MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that
23 > > > > are not reproducible with a fixed number of jobs, regardless how
24 > > > > large.
25 > > >
26 > > > Yes indeed, and that one is good advice.
27 > > >
28 > > > Not every Makefile out there is safe for -j > 1, so running it as
29 > > > one job is valid debugging. It's the correct thing to do with weird
30 > > > build failures as it tests if a specific condition is true or not.
31 > > >
32 > > >
33 > > Yeah, except I've already gone that route, or otherwise ruled it out,
34 > > before I ask. That's why it's grating. (Even more grating when I have
35 > > to spend the time building a package again, just to convince someone
36 > > that, no, it's not MAKEOPTS that's the problem.)
37 > >
38 > > It's like "Have you tried turning it off and back on again".
39 >
40 > I learned that one the hard way :-)
41 >
42 > Now when I submit support posts, I try emulate what bgo asks:
43 >
44 > 1. nature of problem
45 > 2. what have I tried already
46 > 3. steps to reproduce
47 > 4. result gotten
48 > 5. expected result
49 > 6. relevant config files and settings
50 >
51 > Tends to weed out a lot of the silly auto-bot style answers
52 >
53 >
54 I'm going through one on launchpad right now where I indicated that I
55 couldn't get beeps out of xterm, but I could get sound from sound-emitting
56 websites. (Trying to get x11 bell to function via PulseAudio via work
57 laptop)
58
59 First response? "Needs information: Can you get sound from other sound
60 apps?"
61
62 #pulseaudio simply ignored me. And googling turns up that Lennart hates the
63 X server as being a funnel for sound events. I was physically twitching by
64 the time I gave up...
65
66 --
67 :wq

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>