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From: Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:01:56
Message-Id: CAEH5T2M4fGw+eOKocbU9edODeroG0JyfBZubvgEsqaRCCQCXMg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro by Michael Mol
1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
3 > wrote:
4 >>
5 >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400
6 >> Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
7 >>
8 >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon
9 >> > <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>wrote:
10 >> >
11 >> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200
12 >> > > Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> wrote:
13 >> > >
14 >> > > > Michael Mol writes:
15 >> > > >
16 >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick
17 >> > > > > <neil@××××××××××.uk <mailto:neil@××××××××××.uk>> wrote:
18 >> > > >
19 >> > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P
20 >> > > > >
21 >> > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'"
22 >> > > >
23 >> > > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using
24 >> > > > MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that
25 >> > > > are not reproducible with a fixed number of jobs, regardless how
26 >> > > > large.
27 >> > >
28 >> > > Yes indeed, and that one is good advice.
29 >> > >
30 >> > > Not every Makefile out there is safe for -j > 1, so running it as
31 >> > > one job is valid debugging. It's the correct thing to do with weird
32 >> > > build failures as it tests if a specific condition is true or not.
33 >> > >
34 >> > >
35 >> > Yeah, except I've already gone that route, or otherwise ruled it out,
36 >> > before I ask. That's why it's grating. (Even more grating when I have
37 >> > to spend the time building a package again, just to convince someone
38 >> > that, no, it's not MAKEOPTS that's the problem.)
39 >> >
40 >> > It's like "Have you tried turning it off and back on again".
41 >>
42 >> I learned that one the hard way :-)
43 >>
44 >> Now when I submit support posts, I try emulate what bgo asks:
45 >>
46 >> 1. nature of problem
47 >> 2. what have I tried already
48 >> 3. steps to reproduce
49 >> 4. result gotten
50 >> 5. expected result
51 >> 6. relevant config files and settings
52 >>
53 >> Tends to weed out a lot of the silly auto-bot style answers
54 >>
55 >
56 > I'm going through one on launchpad right now where I indicated that I
57 > couldn't get beeps out of xterm, but I could get sound from sound-emitting
58 > websites. (Trying to get x11 bell to function via PulseAudio via work
59 > laptop)
60 >
61 > First response? "Needs information: Can you get sound from other sound
62 > apps?"
63 >
64 > #pulseaudio simply ignored me. And googling turns up that Lennart hates the
65 > X server as being a funnel for sound events. I was physically twitching by
66 > the time I gave up...
67
68 It is not a feature I use, but... I think you need the x11-bell module
69 loaded in your PA config, and point it to a valid sound file
70 containing your preferred beep noise. Maybe then also run "xset b on"
71 in X... maybe some "xset b something" to set volume of the beep as
72 well, and hope your desktop environment doesn't override your hard
73 work with its own sound preferences. :)

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