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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:13:05
Message-Id: CA+czFiAJPQNsQr2ML_A+L1+cNuK2D5Q8vwktsJz8QS5Tz4LHiw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro by Paul Hartman
1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com
2 > wrote:
3
4 > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
5 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
6 > > wrote:
7 > >>
8 > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400
9 > >> Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
10 > >>
11 > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon
12 > >> > <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>wrote:
13 > >> >
14 > >> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200
15 > >> > > Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> wrote:
16 > >> > >
17 > >> > > > Michael Mol writes:
18 > >> > > >
19 > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick
20 > >> > > > > <neil@××××××××××.uk <mailto:neil@××××××××××.uk>> wrote:
21 > >> > > >
22 > >> > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P
23 > >> > > > >
24 > >> > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'"
25 > >> > > >
26 > >> > > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using
27 > >> > > > MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that
28 > >> > > > are not reproducible with a fixed number of jobs, regardless how
29 > >> > > > large.
30 > >> > >
31 > >> > > Yes indeed, and that one is good advice.
32 > >> > >
33 > >> > > Not every Makefile out there is safe for -j > 1, so running it as
34 > >> > > one job is valid debugging. It's the correct thing to do with weird
35 > >> > > build failures as it tests if a specific condition is true or not.
36 > >> > >
37 > >> > >
38 > >> > Yeah, except I've already gone that route, or otherwise ruled it out,
39 > >> > before I ask. That's why it's grating. (Even more grating when I have
40 > >> > to spend the time building a package again, just to convince someone
41 > >> > that, no, it's not MAKEOPTS that's the problem.)
42 > >> >
43 > >> > It's like "Have you tried turning it off and back on again".
44 > >>
45 > >> I learned that one the hard way :-)
46 > >>
47 > >> Now when I submit support posts, I try emulate what bgo asks:
48 > >>
49 > >> 1. nature of problem
50 > >> 2. what have I tried already
51 > >> 3. steps to reproduce
52 > >> 4. result gotten
53 > >> 5. expected result
54 > >> 6. relevant config files and settings
55 > >>
56 > >> Tends to weed out a lot of the silly auto-bot style answers
57 > >>
58 > >
59 > > I'm going through one on launchpad right now where I indicated that I
60 > > couldn't get beeps out of xterm, but I could get sound from
61 > sound-emitting
62 > > websites. (Trying to get x11 bell to function via PulseAudio via work
63 > > laptop)
64 > >
65 > > First response? "Needs information: Can you get sound from other sound
66 > > apps?"
67 > >
68 > > #pulseaudio simply ignored me. And googling turns up that Lennart hates
69 > the
70 > > X server as being a funnel for sound events. I was physically twitching
71 > by
72 > > the time I gave up...
73 >
74 > It is not a feature I use, but... I think you need the x11-bell module
75 > loaded in your PA config, and point it to a valid sound file
76 > containing your preferred beep noise. Maybe then also run "xset b on"
77 > in X... maybe some "xset b something" to set volume of the beep as
78 > well, and hope your desktop environment doesn't override your hard
79 > work with its own sound preferences. :)
80 >
81
82 xset is set properly, x11-bell module is loaded...but it's entirely unclear
83 how to get it pointed at a valid sample file. Even PulseAudio's "Perfect
84 Setup" page glosses over it.
85
86 --
87 :wq

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>