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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: General weirdness - a tale of woe.
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:31:39
Message-Id: 201505272131.25038.michaelkintzios@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: General weirdness - a tale of woe. by Neil Bothwick
1 On Wednesday 27 May 2015 21:09:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:
3 > > Eselect news list 2015-3-28 lists "True multilib support on amd64"
4 > >
5 > > For me, I run a simple profile: [1] default/linux/amd64/13.0 *
6 > >
7 > > Because I run lxde and have experimented with several other minimalistic
8 > > desktops, including lxqt. Currently, I run lxde. If I emerge with the
9 > > --deep option, I get so much breakage that 3000 lines of scrollback is
10 > > not enough to get to the head of the problem. Many errors contain the
11 > > common string "abi_x86_32" which is central to the aforementioned news
12 > > item. I have read this news item many times, tried many ideas, and
13 > > still have this phantom problem. I can delete some packages had at
14 > > the update, hours to days, get it cleaned up to where -D works and a
15 > > couple of emerge --syncs later the problem reappears. Global update
16 > > without (-D) --deep are just fine.
17 > >
18 > >
19 > > I have no idea if this "phantom issue" relates to yours or not. I have
20 > > hesitated to post about it, because in a decade of gentoo usage (and
21 > > there have been some ruff patches to say the least) I have never
22 > > experienced a transient recurring problem like this. I think I need a
23 > > much longer version of that news item and some cook_book syntax to
24 > > fixing these (phantom) multilb issues on my amd64 systems that I am
25 > > experiencing.
26 > >
27 > > Some simple questions::
28 > >
29 > > 1. How do you test if indeed a system is multilib?
30 >
31 > It is, as you are not using a no-multilib profile.
32 >
33 > > 2. Can a system be change, readily, from multilib to not and then back?
34 >
35 > No.
36 >
37 > > 3. Is a more specific profile needed for one where you intend to
38 > > run only a minimalist (lxqt) desktop (than what I listed above)?
39 >
40 > No, that is a fairly basic profile.
41 >
42 > > Comments and guidance are warmly appreciated.
43 > > Peter I'm not trying to hijack your thread, but enquire as to
44 > > commonality.
45 >
46 > Your problem is different but has been covered in previous threads, as
47 > well as the news item. You could add ABI_X86="32 64" to make.conf, but
48 > that won't fit in with your desire for minimalism. So you need to run
49 > emerge with --autounmask-write then run etc-update or equivalent to apply
50 > the changes to package.use.
51
52 Only to add that maintainers are regularly updating packages and this is why
53 you may find that suddenly new packages require USE="abi_x86_32", when a week
54 ago they didn't.
55
56 It is worth noting that one multilib box of mine has not asked me (yet) to set
57 USE="abi_x86_32" on any of its packages, while my laptop is regularly
58 prompting me to do so. I have concluded that the former has no packages which
59 are using 32bit code, while the latter does (I know that at least Skype is a
60 culprit).
61
62 So in extremis you could I guess purge any 32bit coded packages from your PC
63 and the "abi_x86_32" prompts should leave you alone. I shouldn't forget to
64 add your usual disclaimer: "YMMV" :-)
65
66 --
67 Regards,
68 Mick

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