Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? - gentoo-user

From:	james <garftd@×××××××.net>
To:	gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject:	Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date:	Thu, 07 May 2020 15:04:29
Message-Id:	`dfbec568-6dfd-0c63-852a-0ed65da39820@verizon.net`
In Reply to:	Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? by Dale

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On 5/6/20 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:

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> Pengcheng Xu wrote:

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>> Sorry for possible necroposting, but I'm pretty interested what's happening in this thread, as there seems to be detailed discussion on topics under this "Is Gentoo dead?" clickbait subject.  The whole conversation list does not even fit in a single screen...  Would someone kindly provide some clue what's going on?

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>>

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>> Regards,

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>

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>

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> Well, it is about Gentoo and the perception someone had that Gentoo is

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> dying, which has been claimed for many, many years now.� Then the thread

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> started taking off into other directions.� It got slightly off topic,

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> very off topic a couple times and then back on topic. These threads tend

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> to bring out quite a few responses and most can't resist posting, myself

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> included in that as well.� I might add, there threads are usually

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> started by a newcomer and typically they disappear when they realize how

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> active Gentoo really is.� The OP for this thread posted for a couple

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> days and I don't see any posts after that.� Most likely, unsubscribed

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> and long gone.

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>

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> If you enjoy using Gentoo, or if you don't, if you skip this thread, you

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> won't be missing a whole lot.� I don't recall any breaking news or life

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> saving tips in it.� ROFL

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>

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> Dale

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>

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> :-)� :-)

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Spot on. Similarly, folks, mostly youngsters, have been predicting the 

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death of 'C'. There are a multitude of reasons C is still the go to 

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language and ought to be mandatory for folks to learn BEFORE any other 

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language. C gives us freedom, and with C, there is no Unix, BSD, or 

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linux, ymmv. Go read this before bashing an old computer scientist:

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"Programming language C is back in the number one spot"

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https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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So I wonder how many of the Gentoo naysayers, actually have written any 

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significant code in C?  Pointer please.

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Arguably the hottest piece of code, was written (mostly)

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by a Gentoo aficionado: none other that Jason Donefeld,

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in guess what language?

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C

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Gentoo is C centric, since the beginning, whilst enabling a plethora of 

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other languages, that have their place and are, for the most part, 

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wonderful.

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Anyone attacks, or speaks poorly of Gentoo, is pretty much clueless. 

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Last time I looked, it's still rated as one of the top Linux distros, of 

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all time, when you consider a 20 year perspective. Today, Gentoo seeks 

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to run off the lazy, the inept and those that want to trivialize 

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computational complexities.Ubuntu, Mint and others are more well suited 

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for the masses, the lazy and the inept.

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Not to mention  Gentoo was the foundation of CoreOS.

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CoreOS advance many 'hot swap kernel' tricks and was purchased by 

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Redhat, as Traditional Redhat is arcane, crusty and bloated. IBM, on 

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their deathbed, has purchased Redhat(basically a gentoo derivative now) 

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and is failing in most of their other business dealings; because they 

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lack real computer scientists in their upper management.

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Gentoo was, always has, and is still 'kicking ass'; real coders know 

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this, they just keep silent, cause they are MAKING MONEY, off of Gentoo. 

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Gentoo Embedded is a whole other EMPIRE, where folks take credit for 

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building products on embedded systems. GENTOO is still the world's 

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greatest secret in computer science.

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Here's a tidbit: The hacker, from the inside, that's right an IBM 

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employee at Watson, used Gentoo to hack the shit out of AIX. That was at 

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the point, the main reason, IBM abandoned that looser distro call AIX. 

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Now IBM, via purchasing RedHat (coreOS <== Gentoo) has taken over 20 

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years, to realize GENTOO is the greatest linux distro of all time.  So I 

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cannot help but feel sorry, for the kids, that the universities do not 

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teach C/Unix/BSD/Linux with any dose of credibility. New is sexy, but 

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statistically, 99% of new fades, often rapidly. Just look at the 

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bone-yard of linux distros and fancy programming languages.

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The (IBM) stench is deep. 'Smarty Pants' has recently left his creation 

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of CoreOS; I guess even the IBM stench was too much for even him, 

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despite making millions and millions.....

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GENTOO IS THE GREATEST DISTRO EVER! Only the original, historical unix 

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distros come close. Unix is the real reason AT&T was broken up. All that 

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other noise is just a smoke screen, financial maneuvering and  just big 

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business. GTE and Honeywell quickly rolled their own 'unix', and the 

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rest is history the universities do not teach, sadly. Don't even get me 

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started on SunOS, and the evil that pursued those lawyers.

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be blessed,

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James

1	On 5/6/20 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:
2	> Pengcheng Xu wrote:
3	>> Sorry for possible necroposting, but I'm pretty interested what's happening in this thread, as there seems to be detailed discussion on topics under this "Is Gentoo dead?" clickbait subject. The whole conversation list does not even fit in a single screen... Would someone kindly provide some clue what's going on?
4	>>
5	>> Regards,
6	>
7	>
8	> Well, it is about Gentoo and the perception someone had that Gentoo is
9	> dying, which has been claimed for many, many years now.� Then the thread
10	> started taking off into other directions.� It got slightly off topic,
11	> very off topic a couple times and then back on topic. These threads tend
12	> to bring out quite a few responses and most can't resist posting, myself
13	> included in that as well.� I might add, there threads are usually
14	> started by a newcomer and typically they disappear when they realize how
15	> active Gentoo really is.� The OP for this thread posted for a couple
16	> days and I don't see any posts after that.� Most likely, unsubscribed
17	> and long gone.
18	>
19	> If you enjoy using Gentoo, or if you don't, if you skip this thread, you
20	> won't be missing a whole lot.� I don't recall any breaking news or life
21	> saving tips in it.� ROFL
22	>
23	> Dale
24	>
25	> :-)� :-)
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28	Spot on. Similarly, folks, mostly youngsters, have been predicting the
29	death of 'C'. There are a multitude of reasons C is still the go to
30	language and ought to be mandatory for folks to learn BEFORE any other
31	language. C gives us freedom, and with C, there is no Unix, BSD, or
32	linux, ymmv. Go read this before bashing an old computer scientist:
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34	"Programming language C is back in the number one spot"
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36	https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
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39	So I wonder how many of the Gentoo naysayers, actually have written any
40	significant code in C? Pointer please.
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42	Arguably the hottest piece of code, was written (mostly)
43	by a Gentoo aficionado: none other that Jason Donefeld,
44	in guess what language?
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46	C
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48	Gentoo is C centric, since the beginning, whilst enabling a plethora of
49	other languages, that have their place and are, for the most part,
50	wonderful.
51
52	Anyone attacks, or speaks poorly of Gentoo, is pretty much clueless.
53	Last time I looked, it's still rated as one of the top Linux distros, of
54	all time, when you consider a 20 year perspective. Today, Gentoo seeks
55	to run off the lazy, the inept and those that want to trivialize
56	computational complexities.Ubuntu, Mint and others are more well suited
57	for the masses, the lazy and the inept.
58
59	Not to mention Gentoo was the foundation of CoreOS.
60	CoreOS advance many 'hot swap kernel' tricks and was purchased by
61	Redhat, as Traditional Redhat is arcane, crusty and bloated. IBM, on
62	their deathbed, has purchased Redhat(basically a gentoo derivative now)
63	and is failing in most of their other business dealings; because they
64	lack real computer scientists in their upper management.
65
66	Gentoo was, always has, and is still 'kicking ass'; real coders know
67	this, they just keep silent, cause they are MAKING MONEY, off of Gentoo.
68	Gentoo Embedded is a whole other EMPIRE, where folks take credit for
69	building products on embedded systems. GENTOO is still the world's
70	greatest secret in computer science.
71
72	Here's a tidbit: The hacker, from the inside, that's right an IBM
73	employee at Watson, used Gentoo to hack the shit out of AIX. That was at
74	the point, the main reason, IBM abandoned that looser distro call AIX.
75	Now IBM, via purchasing RedHat (coreOS <== Gentoo) has taken over 20
76	years, to realize GENTOO is the greatest linux distro of all time. So I
77	cannot help but feel sorry, for the kids, that the universities do not
78	teach C/Unix/BSD/Linux with any dose of credibility. New is sexy, but
79	statistically, 99% of new fades, often rapidly. Just look at the
80	bone-yard of linux distros and fancy programming languages.
81
82
83	The (IBM) stench is deep. 'Smarty Pants' has recently left his creation
84	of CoreOS; I guess even the IBM stench was too much for even him,
85	despite making millions and millions.....
86
87	GENTOO IS THE GREATEST DISTRO EVER! Only the original, historical unix
88	distros come close. Unix is the real reason AT&T was broken up. All that
89	other noise is just a smoke screen, financial maneuvering and just big
90	business. GTE and Honeywell quickly rolled their own 'unix', and the
91	rest is history the universities do not teach, sadly. Don't even get me
92	started on SunOS, and the evil that pursued those lawyers.
93
94
95	be blessed,
96	James

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